printed on every trail map of Winter Park, Colorado of USA are
"Extreme Terrain
Contains cliffs, very steep (50 degree or greater pitch) slopes as well as rocks and other hazards. Skiing or snowboarding Extreme Terrain is for EXPERT ONLY"
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For me, once you get to around 35* it starts feeling steep.
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skierchris, In order to avoid accusations of pimping, I believe you need to run some lessons at Hemel.....
Steepest i've skied is Eagle Ridge 6&7 at Lake Louise... that was when i wasn't as good on skis as i am now and i was bricking it at points, but it was a great learning experience. I remember saying to my mate that i had never skied something that i could touch the side of the slope by sticking my elbow out!!!
The back bowls are Lake Louise are a great place to build up through a series of various slopes that go from steep to stupid steep to insanely steep. I'll admit i didn't go near the insanely steep at either end of eagle ridge!
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Schuss in Boots,
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Whatever happened to having a multi-sock quiver? C'mon now, try to keep up with the trends
Excellent, this boring thread about steepness has turned into an exciting sock based one.
Has any one used soxfox.com? They are doing deals on Falke socks, 3 pairs for. £48 or so. Seemed a good deal. They should help me tackle the 10-15degree slopes ? Getting the thread back to steepness.
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has anyone ironed their socks on a pitch over 40 degrees ??
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Steepest for me would probably be the Couloir Barbey off the Aiguille d'Argentiere and Tower Gully on Ben Nevis (snowboarding).
Barbey is 5.1 and over 45° for some reasonably sustained sections. Never seen a ski grade for Tower Gully, but it's over 50° at the top, mellowing to a mere 40°+. Both have pretty serious exposure.
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saw the tower gully skiing footage on epicski... looks scary exposed!
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Anyone know how steep the Swiss wall is between avoriaz and champery? It looks near vertical in places, I left it for another time!!
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I've fallen over a (fortunately small) cliff band that I reckon was 80 deg +. Does that count?
See also why I prefer skis to snowboard on exposed and icy pitches.
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limegreen1 wrote:
has anyone ironed their socks on a pitch over 40 degrees ??
In my case, a requirement to wash them after a pitch of over 40 degrees would be more appropriate.
Some years ago a group of us were off piste with a guide on a "steep" slope. Near the bottom he paused and asked us what we all thought the gradient was. Despite suspecting there was a catch in the question, we all offered ideas varying between 40 and 60 degrees or even more.
He then placed one of his ski poles in the snow vertically, then placed the other horizontally with the tops of the handles touching and the second pole pointing horizontally towards the slope. If the slope had been 45 degrees then the horizontal pole would have touched the slope. To the disappointment of all of us it was nowhere near.
He then slid the horizontal pole down the vertical one until the horizontal pole touched the snow. He had markings on the vertical pole to show what the gradients were and this slope came out around 38. That is still steep enough for most skiers however most slopes are not as steep in terms of degrees as we think.
So to anyone who thinks they are on a slope of 45 degrees or more, I suggest you try this simple test. If you ask the group beforehand as our guide did however, you can expect some disappointed faces.
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only looking as it's courchevel and that's where we're off to... cracking video.... cannae wait!!!!!!
The first part of that clips looks like the couloir right under the cable car, "sous-pylons" or "téléphérique". Its about 38 degrees. The kids love it because they can tap the front of the cable car with their poles as it comes in, and watch the horrified faces peering out
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richjp, good wee story. the new k2 poles have markings on them for just such measuring purposes.
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richjp, good wee story. the new k2 poles have markings on them for just such measuring purposes.
Thank you. One of my present poles is a bit bent, so that is another excuse to get new pair.
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Just as an observation even with the K2 poles surely it depends on which way up you are measuring the angle from, i.e is is 90 degress minus the respective angle or 0 degrees plus the respective angle. Who knows it could answer why some peoples ideas are different to others. Is the same calculation understood by all those discussing slope angles?
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It's becoming a physics discussion .
Can't we just agree that steepness is subjective? What one might consider steep another might consider flat.
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Megamum, Yes, as long as you know what you;re talking about
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Leeds_Skier, I would throw in to the mix that steepness is very subject to snow condition - 40º brick hard 'ice' can be terrifying, 50º of knee deep powder is not...
To add to some of the comments above, personally steepness is only relevant if one has to make controlled turns down it for a sustained period of time (ie no possibility to point the tips downhill & run it out)... if not then I have 'skied' overhanging snow..
As for socks, I like ones with left & right written on them... and don't iron them...
You know it makes sense.
You know it makes sense.
Sorry, that was facetious. Slope angles are measured relative to zero degrees horizontal.
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nbt, oh you bitch!
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Just as an observation even with the K2 poles surely it depends on which way up you are measuring the angle from, i.e is is 90 degress minus the respective angle or 0 degrees plus the respective angle. Who knows it could answer why some peoples ideas are different to others. Is the same calculation understood by all those discussing slope angles?
Also depends how certain you are that you can get the poles COMPLETELY vertical and COMPLETELY horizontal.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
i used to carry a clinometer around with me but whenever i was on something steep enough to boast about on the internet, i was too busy clinging on to my edges to be faffing round measuring steepness
only looking as it's courchevel and that's where we're off to... cracking video.... cannae wait!!!!!!
The first part of that clips looks like the couloir right under the cable car, "sous-pylons" or "téléphérique". Its about 38 degrees.
Are you sure? They don't feel like 38*.
Fairly sure, but I'll check .....
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I'm sure slopes always feel a lot steeper than they actually are.
Am off to Val d'Isere end of Jan and looking forward to 'The Face'......ok so after reading this thread a little worried now. Have been on a few steeps where you can put your hand out to one side and rest your palm on the slope. Depending on the route you take, 'The Face' is quoted at about 63 degrees.
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63% maybe, but not 63 deg
45deg = 100%, 1 foot up for 1 foot in
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I'm sure slopes always feel a lot steeper than they actually are.
Am off to Val d'Isere end of Jan and looking forward to 'The Face'......ok so after reading this thread a little worried now. Have been on a few steeps where you can put your hand out to one side and rest your palm on the slope. Depending on the route you take, 'The Face' is quoted at about 63 degrees.
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