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ed123 wrote:
all our butt cheeks were so firmly clamped together there was no chance of a turn


...or as a friend of mine put it, "if you stuck a piece of coal in my ass right now it would come out a diamond"
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This doesn't take into account people who subscribe to Darwin's Theory of evolution who drage their knuckles on the ground.
Don't you mean "who failed to evolve"?

horizon, how is the knee doing? (for those of you who forgot, he had a knee operation a month or so ago).
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snowball, thanks for asking! It will be 7 weeks this Thursday and things are going quite well - I've been walking normally for the last 2-3 weeks and I'm doing a lot of physiotherapy / exercises.

The doc saw me c. three weeks ago and said that only 10-20% of patients can jump on one leg 4 weeks after the operation.

I think I'll come over to La Grave mid-Feb to say hello, but for skiing I'll stick to the blue pistes in Serre Chevalier with my son!



Sorry for the thread hijack guys...I promise I'll make up for it with steep skiing pics as soon as I'm fully recovered.
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Good to hear you're fixing up, C.

I'm going to be in La Grave over New Year so I'm praying for snow right now. Want the Voute and the Freaux to be in decent nick.
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Personally I feel that anything over 35 degrees feels steep. Very few pistes are 35 degrees for any real length. Sustained 30 degrees is a steep piste.
40 degrees feels really steep and I don't think I've skied anything above 50, probably less. 60 degrees is madly steep - fall on that and you really are not going to stop until the bottom.

I always think that if I can get some sluff going then it's atmospherically steep! Did a quick google and this article suggests you normally need at least 40 degrees for sluffing.
http://www.fsavalanche.org/Encyclopedia/sluff.htm
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Just been watching the Blizzard of Aaahs again, and Poubelle off the Aiguille du midi - which is one of the steepest bits they do - is quoted at 49 degrees
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I used to guage how steep my wife thought a slope was by how long she just stood looking at it, then by the amount of abuse I got. Laughing ..... she now skis with her new husband.... the poor sod !!


OMG

This is a common scenario and theme in my family skiing holiday ...
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Steep is no problem to an Ibex.


http://youtube.com/v/N2Jad7Yk1Dw
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Brian, wow thats amazing!
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Why is it that when you look down a set of stairs that is 45 degrees, it doesn't seem steep - if you put a load of snow over the stairs and filled in the gaps I'd ski it, but suddenly when it's a piste it is a different view?

I agree that we overestimate how steep a slope is generally, but they still tend to look like more than 45 degrees when they're not. There must be some scientific reason for it.
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not sure that many flights of stairs are 45*
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Monium, just measured a typical set of stairs at my work - using the mammut snow safety iphone app. 33 degrees...
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Monium, Mine at home are 42 degrees using the same app as stoatsbrother.
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Monium, the stairs are not long enough to give you the feeling of ohshhit I'm going to fall into this vertical hole and die!

Plus I guess most of them are indeed less than 45 degrees.

Some stairs on the tube do look interesting though!
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42 degrees here at my folks in Lancashire, using the iHandyLevel app Smile Must be a northern vs southern thing, southerners are too soft to get up steep stairs, probably causes accidents trying to scale anything that steep in Manolos after too many sherrys, and that's just stoatsbrother Smile
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Monium wrote:
Why is it that when you look down a set of stairs that is 45 degrees, it doesn't seem steep - if you put a load of snow over the stairs and filled in the gaps I'd ski it, but suddenly when it's a piste it is a different view?

I agree that we overestimate how steep a slope is generally, but they still tend to look like more than 45 degrees when they're not. There must be some scientific reason for it.


Exposure.
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OK, points taken, but I don't get the "oh lordy" moment and feel the need to slap myself on the face a few times before walking down a long set of stairs. Even if they are 35 degrees, that is still steep in our world. If I pictured myself on a pair of skis, I still wouldn't feel it. Hemel looks like a set of stairs to me, but clearly it is nowhere near as steep.
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Monium, I imagine it is a pure confidence/perception thing. You have been going down stairs since being a kid and it is totally natural, therefore you do not associate it with danger.
I good skier would not think twice about a slope as steep as stairs because they know they can easily negotiate it without thinking. But someone like myself has to plot a way down whilst trying not to fall.

Imagine a fully grown adult who has never seen a flight of stairs before. What would their reaction be if you plonked them at the top and told them to walk down?

Cheers
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Sideshow_Bob, down here we have room for more gentle steps.

And they're jimmy Choos. Wink
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http://youtube.com/v/dWcth4zh6_o
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Wow those ibex are amazing, great vid Brian. Shows us how far we really are out of our element in a mountian enviroment and how much they are in theres. Brill
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