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Kaprun - 10 years ago today

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In memory of the ....

92 Austrians
37 Germans
10 Japanese
8 Americans
4 Slovenians
2 Dutch
1 Brit (Kevin Challis, Ski Instructor married to an Austrian women)
1 Czech

who perished 10 years ago today.


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The Kaprun disaster was a fire that occurred in an ascending railway car in the tunnel of the Gletscherbahn 2 railway in Kaprun, Austria, on 11 November 2000. The disaster claimed the lives of 155 people, leaving 12 survivors (10 Germans, 2 Austrians) from the burning car. The victims were skiers on their way to the Kitzsteinhorn Glacier.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaprun_disaster


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In Dutch: http://www.bnr.nl/artikel/20689158/nabestaanden-kaprun-rechter

Relatives of some victims want a new trail. In the radio program was discussed that there are new circumstances discovered, which may indicate that some suspects are liable for this disaster.
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Harrowing.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3502265.stm details from BBC.
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Christian Aigner (26) Maishofen
Manfred Aigner (56) Piesendorf
Baker Carrie (23) Rheinfelden
Johann Batori (31) Marchtrenk
Bianka Bieber (22) Wels
Johannes Blaimauer (32) Wels
Roman Böhm (36) Wien
Gudrun Bruckmair (40) Wels
Kevin Challis (41) Kaprun
Jakob Decker (28.) Piesendorf
Nao Deguchi (13) Fukushima
Okihiko Deguchi (52) Fukushima
Hans Demelbauer (49) Leogang
Franz Denk (34) Spitz/Donau
Christopher Denk (8.) Spitz/Donau
Josef Dorner (43) Hahnbach (D)
Alfred Eidenberger (68.) Altenberg
Alexander Eismann (21) Ruhpolding (D)
Bettina Emrich (34) Wels
Petra Falk (25) Sulzbach (D)
Christian Fellner (29) Ainring (D)
Rastko Ferk (26) Slov. Bistrica (SLO)
Franz Ferstl (50) Ruhpolding (D)
Grabriele Fiedler (35) Hahnbach
Heinrich Fiedler (37) Hahnbach
Benjamin Filkil (15) Mackenbach
Paul Filkil (46) Mackenbach
Markus Fink (23) Wien
Ingeborg Födermayr (53) Wels
Christian Franz (36) Wels
Helmut Freilinger (62) Linz
Erika Friedl (61) Wels
Primoz Galjot (33) Kranj (SLO)
Rok Galjot (32) Kranj (SLO)
Sebastian Geiger (14) Übersee (D)
Jennifer Goodrich (36) Würzburg (D)
Michael Goodrich (36) Würzburg (D)
Kyle Goodrich (5) Würzburg (D)
Michael Goodrich jr. (8.) Würzburg (D)
Markus Graßler (21) Vilseck (D)
Barbara Guggenbichler (13) (D)
Sonja Hager (22) Abersee/Pasching
Heinz Hallwirth (44) Buchkirchen
Jens Heuckeroth (36) Nackenheim (D)
Markus Hirtl (15) Uttendorf
Daniel Hochreiter (13) Bad Leonfelden
Christian Hulka (32) Kaprun
Josef Humer (56) Wels
Nina Humer (21) Marchtrenk
Karl Huttegger (25) Hüttschlag
Elke Innerhuber (59) Wels
Ernst Jenewein (38.) Kaprun
Judith Jindra (19) Oberpullendorf
Herbert Kahr k.A. Linz
Stefan Kaippel (19) Wien
Ayaka Katoono k.A. Fukushima
Wolfgang Käufl (41) Hahnbach
Erich Kern (25) Wiesbaden (D)
Kurt Kiemeswenger (35) Wels
Petra Kiemeswenger (33) Wels
Ursula Kipper (44) Wels
Matthias Kirnbauer (19) Steingraben
Martin Klapper (36) Maria Alm
Maximilian Klapper (5) Maria Alm
Patrick Klapper (15) Maria Alm
Horst Konrad (29) St. Veit/Glan
Karin Konrad (29) St. Veit/Glan
Gerhard Lausch (39) Kaprun
Roman Leitner (27) Wels
Katja Levart k.A., Slov. Bistrica (SLO)
Robert Lindner (19) Steinerkirchen
Dr. Franz Lueger (43) Mogersdorf
Paul Lueger (16) Mogersdorf
Clemens Lueger (18.) Mogersdorf
Andreas Maier (17) Ruhpolding (D)
Maijer Claudia (22) Amsterdam (NL)
Barbara Mayerhofer (17) Vilseck (D)
Karl Mayerhofer (37) Vilseck (D)
Sandra Mayr (22) Linz Ilona Menzikova (20) Tschechien
Rudolf Mihailovic (37) Wels
Gabriele Mildner (39) Hahnbach (D)
Peter Mildner (40) Hahnbach (D)
Saory Mitsumoto (22) Tokio (JAP)
Peter Mitteregger (33) Klagenfurt
Stephan Mohr (16) Thalgau
Hans Mühleder (40) Bad Leonfelden
Patrick Mühleder (9) Bad Leonfelden
Sandra Mühleder (17) Bad Leonfelden
Ryoko Narahara (22) Kanagawa (JAP)
Rudolf Neumair (8.) Kaprun
Maria Neumann (59) Beckum (D)
Wolfgang Neumann (59) Beckum (D)
Martin Niederberger (24) Piding (D)
Heinz Nowak (52) Wels
Ingrid Nowak (46) Wels
Tobias Ohner (19) Wien
Masanobu Onodera (14) (JAP)
Hirokazu Oyjama (25) (JAP)
Cornelia Papouschek (36) Orth
Otto Parobek (69) Wels
Radomir Pavlovic (23) Kelkheim (D)
Christian Petermandl (42) Buchkirchen
Brigitte Plössner (44) Vilseck (D)
Günther Plössner (47) Vilseck (D)
Dr. Josef Ponzer (59) Wien
Martin Prohaska (25) Wien
Andreas Putschlögl (19) Wieselburg
Kurt Rehak (71) Wels
Matthias Reiser (13) Berchtesgaden (D)
Martin Riha (27) Wels
Massimo Roeatti (13) Bergen (D)
Maki Sakakibara (25) Yamanashi (JAP)
Stefan Sakrausky (18.) Fresach
Britta Sandmayr (35) Schleißheim
Gerald Sandmayr (36) Wels
Tomohisa Saze (14) Fukushima (JAP)
Dietmar Scharwitzl (18.) Villach
Josef Schaupper (37) Goldegg
Hubert Schmid (32) Vilseck (D)
Manfred Schmitt (46) Mörfelden (D)
Marianne Schmitt (45) Mörfelden (D)
Sandra Schmitt (19) Mörfelden (D)
Manfred Schönhuber (43) Wels
Thomas Schönl (33) Vilseck (D)
Siegfried Schwabl (24) Niedernsill
Nikodemus Seilern-Moy (15) Güssing
Patrick Sieger (24) Albstadt (D)
Andrea Singer (29) Vilseck (D)
Patrik Smejda (23) Wien
Alexander Smrcek (Mitte 20) Wien
Katrin Specht (17) Vilseck (D)
Barry Stadman (26) Amstetveen (NL)
Lorenz Stangl (21) Linz
Michael Steffo (28.) Vilseck (D)
Roswitha Steiner (59) Wels
Florian Steinl (22) Rieden (D)
Matthäus Stilldorf (18.) Wien
Sebastian Stöckl (30) Wald im Pinzgau
Christa Strasser (58.) Wels
Helmut Strasser (59) Wels
Jens Verhorst (24) Vilseck (D)
Gerald Voithofer (15) Neukirchen
Hilde Wagner (35) Obersiebenbrunn
Tomoko Wakui (15) Fukushima (JAP)
Arthur Warias (26) Pinkafeld
Franz Weber-Unger (18.) Wien
Simone Wildenauer (23) Reichenau (D)
Daniel Gunar Wilhelm (20) Wien
Anita Wisneth (27) Freitung (D)
Hermann Wurzinger (41) St. Johann
Willi Wurzinger (39) St. Johann/Wimb.
Dr. Ernst Zauner (44) Wels
Josef Zeilinger (61) Ried/Innkr.
Inge Zeilinger (60) Ried/Innkr.


http://www.salzburg.com/sn/sonderberichte/vermisste.html
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horrible seeing that list of names and realising that it wasn't just 155 people who perished, but the number of families who died together that day Sad

I was on the train when we were at Zell am See on a school ski trip - it was pretty exciting going up in the train. Still find it hard to believe that something as simple as a faulty (or wrongly fitted) heating fan could cause the deaths of so many.

RIP
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I remember it so well, we were in Kaprun earlier in the year when 11 ski instructors were killed in an avalanche, and then they had to face a second disaster a few months later Sad Sad
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I skied on the Kitzsteinhorn on Wednesday and my thoughts were often about what happened there ten years ago. When I came down, I looked into the memorial building. This doesn't look very impressive from the outside but I found the inside moving. There are slit windows with the name of each person who died. Now relations and friends have added pictures at many of the windows, which made it all much more personal. Young lads and lasses, tourists, trainers, families. Tragic.
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Sad Sad Sad
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And all they had to do was walk down, not up.
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Sad That list of names does bring home how many actually died and the personal tragedies.

Liveezy, I thought one of the problems was that most of them couldn't get out of the train?
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Liveezy,

Liveezy wrote:
And all they had to do was walk down, not up.


The few who were lucky enough to be near the rear of the train (I assume before the fire fully developed) were able to get out by punching out a window and running downhill. All the other poor souls would have had to walk through a fierce fire - there was no way out for them. The fire started at the bottom of the train and the strong wind through the tunnel created a furnace that burnt the train down to bare buckled metal.


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On 11 November 2000, 161 passengers and one conductor boarded the funicular train for an early morning trip to the slopes. After the passenger train ascended into the tunnel shortly after 9:00am, the electric heater in the unattended conductor's cabin at the lower end of the train caught fire, due to a design fault. The fire melted through plastic pipes carrying flammable hydraulic fluid from the braking system, and the resulting loss of fluid pressure caused the train to halt unexpectedly (this was a standard safety feature). The train conductor, who was in the cabin at the upper end of the train (which was the front, since the train was ascending), realised a fire had broken out, reported it to the control centre, and attempted to open the hydraulically operated train doors, but the system pressure loss prevented them from operating. The train conductor then lost contact with the control centre because the fire burned through a power cable running the length of the track, causing a total blackout.


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Don't have the right words to express the right level of sorrow for the relatives and families Crying or Very sad
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I used that train in Sept 1996 and went up to the Kitzsteinhorn peak as a non-skier. It was my first up-close big mountain experience, it was so exciting and amazing going from late summer in the valley to winter up on the mountain. Watching everyone ski on the glacier was one of the inspirations for me taking up skiing 2 years later.

It's so poignant seeing those names, how many families lost a father, whole families with young children lost, each name represents a life-changing tragedy for bereaved family, friends and work colleagues. So sad..... Sad Sad Sad
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LB was training up there yesterday, very very sobering, RIP
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I remember this, I had been living in Austria in 98-99 (during which the Galtuer avalanche occurred) and almost every time Austria featured in the paper for the next 18 months it was because something horrific had happened - this, the avalanche that killed 11 skiers, the Tauern tunnel fire. Really Sad

Looking at the list of names really brings home how many whole families were just wiped out, or where two or three family members died and might have left one at home.

May they rest in peace.

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I am out there on 20th with Skivolution training week. Thanks for this thread. We are the lucky ones.
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Gut wrenching. Crying or Very sad
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As a lucky one of the nightmarish day of November 11, 2000, I today as well as every day since then commemorate to the Kaprun tragedy, its 155 victims and their families.
Ruhet in Frieden.
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Yes I was using that train on a holiday in the previous ski season, so when the tragedy occurred I could relate very strongly to it. Sad
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I think of the tragedy each time I visit the Kitzsteinhorn, often (as last Wednesday) at the beginning of my season around the anniversary of the fire. The memorial building for the victims shown in the photo below doesn't look much from the outside but I find it very moving inside. There is a slit window remembering each person who died, with a stained glass insert giving the name and date of birth. You see young brothers, the Japanese group, older people. Relations and friends have personalised each window with photos and suchlike. It is a spot for quiet reflection.

Edit: Hadn't noticed that the thread was from last year originally, so I rather repeated myself - but the thoughts stay the same.



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Went up it in summer 96 with my wife and niece, walking and had such a great and memorable day, still cant believe that this happened, RIP to all those involved thoughts to the familys.
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I was supposed to be there with friends that day. We would have been on the train possibly that one, as I preferred it to the cable car. My friends had to cancel last minute, so I decided not to go on my own. My family thought I had and spent the whole day trying to get hold of me as did other friends. I had decided to go out without my mobile phone for a walk around town instead. When I finally got home at about 6 in the evening my Dad was about to set out for the airport as he was convinced I was among the dead or injured because they could not get hold of me and nor could any of my friends they knew.

I sat in the dark for a long time crying when I found out what had happened. I still get a very cold feeling when I show up there in the morning to ski.
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What a horrific tragedy. What actually replaced the funicular? Was it another funicular or the gondola you can see in the photo posted by espri above?
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The funicular didn't run after the fire. The left hand of the two gondolas in the picture, the Funitel GletscherJet 1, was built to provide more capacity.
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Thanks espri
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I remember watching a programme about the fire, think it was Discovery Channel and the cause was a faulty heater in the rear cab that was designed for "home" use! the glass on the train was also toughened which prevented more people in that rear car escaping on time.

Very very sad and harrowing.

I was there the year before with a group of friends and remember the first time up on the train. Something new and crazy about it, and fun as well. THen when the disaster happened, it changed my view of funicular tunnel railways ever since. I always get in the bottom cabin now.

RIP
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