 Poster: A snowHead
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Have just bought my first new pair of skis (yay!).
How many of you guys wax your own skis?
Also, how is it applied and is it easy to get it on evenly?
cheers,
Andy
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I wax and love doing it. What RPF said, though why wouldn't anyone scrape?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| Zero-G wrote: |
why wouldn't anyone scrape? |
They say it will get scraped after first run, maybe it does, maybe not, but I bought the scrapers so I'm using them.
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RPF, not in spring conditions- unless your out early on the ice. The wax will just stick to the soft snow and your go nowhere slowly. you need structure.
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| RPF wrote: |
| I bought the scrapers so I'm using them. |
You have more than one scraper!? Don't they all pretty much do the same thing?
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Does anyone know why a rectangular piece of perspex with "Toko" printed onto it, cost's about £6 
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Kel, It's precision engineered 
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Andythejock, If you do allot of base prep the wax will stay in the base and you top it up based on the conditions as above Jon website is a great resource and there is plenty of tutorial vidos on line.
I love doing my own own and it is very theraputic and once I am in the waking hut at the club I always end up doing allot of other peoples skis for my troubles
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| RPF wrote: |
| I bought the scrapers so I'm using them. |
You have more than one scraper!? Don't they all pretty much do the same thing? |
I have 2 because sometimes I wander off into my own little world and leave one somewhere, usually the fridge when I go for beer or cake . they are both the same. the more coherent only need one.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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I like the large yellow triangular scrapers... much better than those little square ones.
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Cheers all!
Couple of questions.
At the risk of sounding a wee bit daft, are we talking about a specific iron or just your regular iron (which reminds me of when I tried ironing a flowery sleeping bag when I was a teenager, leaving a flowery pattern on the iron! )
Also, I note Jon's website refers to doing edges DIY. Do you do that or do you usually take the skis to a specialist for that?
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You know it makes sense.
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Iron's: This is a little split some you need a proper one others say a standard is ok. I use a proper wax Iron
Edges: Yes do them - set up cost is a lot more but well worth it.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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I did use a cheap travel iron but they tend to go cold, then take ages to heat up, then go cold etc etc. I now use a proper one as it does speed the process up. A cheap nylon scrubbing brush with soft bristles from a pound shop is fine for brushing after a scrape. It is very easy to do.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Andythejock, I do waxing, bases, and edges. I use a small non steam (important) travel iron. I do them myself for the following reasons, its cheap once you have the tools, I am not getting the crap ripped out of my skis on the machines in the shop, plus I can have them done more often and can keep a sharp eye on the bases, bindings and edges.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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ok, so pricewise for waxing alone:
- wax iron £46
- brushes £30
- scraper £6
- wax £15
£100 before you get started?
Thing I was thinking about was not being able to deal with base damage properly or being sure I was doing the edges as they should be done?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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2 Brushes - £2. Scraper - make your own. Travel iron - £10. 
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Andythejock, Once someone shows you how to do edges it's fine. I bought two suction cup adjustable angle vices from Aldi for about £14 and drilled and screwed them to my workbench. A couple of diamond files, an edge guide (base guide is only a fiver if you want one), a stone and a gummistone and you are away. Add extra kit over a period of time.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Scarpa, do you take all that kit away with you as well? (Not the workbench obviously.)
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I started doing mine this year. I did find that at Easter, despite 9 days skiing, the wax was still going strong. On previous years when the skis have been shop waxed they've really been struggling by the end.
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do you take all that kit away with you as well?
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All you need for a week away is some Zardoz and a Diamond Stone
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| Kel wrote: |
| Does anyone know why a rectangular piece of perspex with "Toko" printed onto it, cost's about £6 |
Plus scrapers lose their edge and effectiveness after a bit of use. Has anybody tried cheaper alternatives? Obviously it has to be stiff, but I guess there's things like car ice scrapers?
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Sorry but I have problems with using cheap bits if scratchy plastic on my very expensive ski's. Really its like buying a Ferrari and putting kwik fit remoulds on it.
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Not quite - more like using a cheap jack for changing the wheel, but still using the Pirellis on the car!
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We do ours, but don't scrape. It makes a horrendous mess on the decking, is extra work, and makes no difference after the first couple of runs (and no discernable difference even then for yer ordinary punter - I tried scraping one, and not the other, once, then put them on at random and couldn't tell). There are certain snow conditions when it matters - very cold, new, powdery snow. But we just did ours, and found they were great in the slush - certainly a big improvement, after we'd left them rather a long while from sheer idleness.
and obviously at the end of the season you don't scrape, because the extra protection is great for the summer.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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What vices do people use to hold the skiis in place while waxing & edging? The "proper" ones are nearly £100!!!
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I use a workmate.
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You know it makes sense.
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Plus scrapers lose their edge and effectiveness after a bit of use.
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Just sharpen them again
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Yes, I wax my own - what else would one use an iron for?
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Poster: A snowHead
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| ski wrote: |
| Just sharpen them again |
I must have missed that - how does one sharpen a scraper?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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mfj197, with a scraper sharpener, obviously. Question is, what happen when your scraper sharpener blunts?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Never done it but if its perspex you could probably file it as long as you were good at keeping file flat.
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Dr John, maybe you use a scraper sharpener sharpener?
A belt sander would work I guess. Just been googling scraper sharpeners but keeping the edge completely flat must be paramount.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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mfj197, it's all starting to get a bit complicated, I'll stick to throwing them at Guido on arrival at resort.
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Dr John, ah, but you'll miss the whole experience! The fuggy waxy fume-laden atmosphere, therapeutic to and fro of an iron, not to mention the copious amounts of alcohol consumed during the process!
I wonder if a cheese wire might work! 
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mfj197, don't get me wrong, if I was out for an extended period of time I'd be there with an iron in one hand, a large glass of local vino in the other, and wax absolutely everywhere. As it is, with a precious couple of weeks a year and good carpets at home, Guido will have to suffice.
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can't you scrape with the back side of a knife?
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horizon, in theory I suppose you could, but if I tried it I'd lose a digit (and probably spill my wine)
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ski wrote:
Just sharpen them again
I must have missed that - how does one sharpen a scraper?
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Just use an ordinary flat file to get the edge back.. not difficult at all
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