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Confused about Burton bindings

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paulio wrote:
if that fails, stick the fecker on eBay and forget any of this ever happened.


always knew you were a skier at heart wink Laughing
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EST and ICS go together like peanut butter and jam Smile

ICS (Infinate Channel System) Is designed to allow an 'infinate' amount of Binding stance adjustment as it is not limited buy screw positioning. The system works very well and is FAR more secure and savvy than Forums previous attempts. This Year Burton have added 'lighting bolts' which basically allow quicker transition and response from edge to edge via using a different core construction around the Channels.

Standard '3pin' Burton bindings will however fit on the ICS system Snowboards after the purchase of a 'retro disc' (however the fittement isnt as savvy as with the EST)

There should be a screw.. or often nowadays a tool-less adjustment that can be done to the toe strap which will release the toe-slider and it can be moved and retightened so that the distance on one side of the slider is shorter (the excess often hides away on the binding cap strap). This then allows you to have less clicks to do the binding up.. and more importantly you can get the binding done up tighter.

Sometimes, as with all binding manufacturers, the buckle itself is sprung loaded.. much like a clothes peg? and these springs can wear out which means that when you are getting to your last final clicks the ratchet will no longer grip? Spare buckles can be order through any decent retailer but ofcourse a small fee will be charged.

The 08-09 Operator is a decent board.. but i would upgrade to some Union Force Bindings or some such to improve your binding reliabilty.
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OK, so from a couple of hours in a fridge.. I CAN get the toestrap tight enough, JUST. With a lot of swearing. I should probably just learn to get along with it one click looser. I feel like the ladder will get worn out pretty quickly, I was forcing it (and slipping it) quite a lot...
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paulio, that's pretty much where i ended up, maybe without the swearing. Cool
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Jonny luv plums wrote:
toe straps are optional extras imo, they dont need to be tight.

do you know under the binding the ladder straps have 2 mounting positions?


Agreed.

I have finished a run and seen that my rear toe cap was now resting on the top of my boot, where I hadn't done it up tight enough. I had no idea this had happened when riding. Most likely cause is them getting lifted by snow when seriously cranked over on toe side turns.
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Exhibit A

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Carving without a rear toe strap.

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i had the same problem (moving toecap - both front and back foot) with Burton EST bindings this year. couldn't really get the Fitzwilliams tighter so not sure how to solve..?
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Fitzwilliams = b*stards
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if its any consolation next years burton toe straps are awesome, at least on the top bindings they are (co2/cartel etc) the lower end ones are dire, the custom est for next year look and feel cheap as hell. The new straps are like a cross between ride's silicon gel thing and a burton strap. They suck onto your boots and do not move.
I still stand by toe straps are optional though, best binding I ever had are my current contrabands.
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Jonny luv plums wrote:
best binding I ever had are my current contrabands.


Agreed, I have had C60's, Missions and Union Forces but I love my contrabands - just so comfortable and a brilliant concept Happy
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Jonny luv plums, might get some of them for my C02s. I assume they will be retro fit.
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