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Split rail - repair or bin?

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My Atomic Metron B5's (2005) took a bit of a battering last year in Whistler (thanks again to rubbish conditions there and too many rocks. Great place, often rubbish weather).

I forgot about it and just realised when I got them out of the loft for this year. Aside from a few gouges that I could fix with p-tex, one of the rocks went right across the edge and split the rail. It hasn't actually come away from the edge and seems secure. I've filed down any bits that were sticking out, creating a smooth edge, and you wouldn't notice other than there's a hairline crack in it if you look close but it is right the way through the rail.

I'm thinking though that as soon as I catch that edge on something hard it's just going to blow out.

Does this place them beyond repair? Could it just be welded, and would somewhere like Snow & Rock be able to sort me out?

Okay they're 5 years old now and I could get new skis, but aside from the fact they're damn heavy, I really like these skis and I'd rather not the expense of new skis if I can avoid it.
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If you like them, fix them. Personally I would bin them for you Wink

Without a photo it's hard to tell. I wouldn't bother with a shop repair. Some good two part epoxy will do the job. Google for edge repair, you'll find loads of info.
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If it's just cracked and not displaced, then they'll be okay until you hit the same spot again and the edge may then pull out - but equally it might not. If you buy new skis, you could do the same thing again.

As you say you like the skis otherwise, just go skiing.
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Right, prepared to be shocked by the awful state of my base Very Happy. It looks far worse when you look at it close up with a macro lens, and that's not just the rail! ...




Still, with a bit of effort with p-tex and wax I can get the base itself sorted. The rails look bad here but mostly just needs a decent tune.

Anyway, you can see the split in the middle here.
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Ski edge repair if you have the work space, tools, time, and hand skills. In your case, since the edge appears to have a clean fracture and not been pulled out, I might try removing the adjacent section of base, pinning the edge ends in place, and replacing the removed base section. Or you might get away with just carefully injecting epoxy resin and filing flush - but if they were my skis I think I would want the edges pinned.
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achilles wrote:
if you have the work space, tools, time, and hand skills.

Sadly I have pretty much none of these Sad Very Happy. The most I can cope with at present is waxing and filling, but I don't have the tools and skills for this kind of job anyway.

For a belt & braces fix, I've got some Super Glue knocking around, but is that any good? The edge doesn't come away by hand, but just thinking if I catch another rock (I do try to avoid them though), it could easily knock it out.

I might still see what Snow & Rock have to say. Obviously they would like to flog me some new skis instead, but money for a repair is better than nothing. Assuming they're up to this kind of thing and they don't just specialise in simple waxing and tuning in a machine. Other option is a local ski shop out where I'm going (heading to Utah, and there are plenty of shops around Salt Lake City), but would be nice to get it sorted before I get there rather than waste a day there sorting them out. Or, anywhere else around the Surrey area (especially Guildford/Woking)? I only know of S&R in Chertsey.

Thankfully the weather in Utah is normally very good and you don't get the rubbish conditions that you can sometimes in Whistler (or most of Europe).
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Superglue won't hack it: you need something with a bit of flexibility, such as epoxy already suggested: e.g. araldite (24hr stuff, not rapid!). I know plenty of people who would just glue this themselves and happily ski on it, but you'll probably find S&R would advise against it.
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Cracks like that were fairly common on the older B5's. Edge replacement &/or pinning is too invasive & will weaken more than it will strengthen on such a minor wound. Araldite 2011 & file smooth & you'll be good to go.
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I'll give the Araldite a go. Though to the eye there's hardly any gaps to inject the stuff. It's only with the macro lens on my camera where the gaps are noticeable.

Anyway, I might find I'm not happy with the ride any more and end up getting new skis Very Happy. Though I do like these, but then I haven't tested any new stuff for the past 5 years.
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deadkenny, just wait, the Metron was a bit of changer for some people - spyderjon I believe was once a big fan. Since he's seen the light, there are loads of better skis out there.

If you want the edge to last as long as possible cut some of the ptex out from around the cut and fill it with epoxy, then just file it flat. I've skied skis with much worse cracks in them than that.
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......spyderjon I believe was once a big fan......

I still am although both my pairs of Bros weigh the same as one pair of B5's wink
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