 Poster: A snowHead
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Agression, and speed coupled with a lack of repect for your knees. Its almost a case of dancing from the side of one bump to the next.
Look 2 or 3 bumps ahead.
When starting dont get hung up on looking for a good mogul to start the run. The next mogul always looks better to turn on. However you are just kidding yourself and making yourself look lame in front of your public by traversing the slope.
As with anything in this game dont try to think about too much as you will end up getting nowhere and prob look like a bag of spanners in the process.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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So what IS the song you found then Snowy? 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Moguls are usually steep. And if you're new to them, you just want to know that you can stop when you've finished that death defying heroic turn on a near vertical slope.
The uphill edge of a mogul is either flat or slopes the opposite way to the fall line. It holds the key to your sanity. Don't worry about where you'll turn, think about where you'll end up after your turn. You want to finish up right next to the comfort of a mogul's uphill edge. It'll slow you down without stopping you - just in time for your heart to leap back into your mouth as you start again.
This advice comes from The All Mountain Skier, a really excellent book. It transformed the way I ski moguls by giving me confidence - and now they're my favourite type of slope.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Just read my way through here, very useful! I have to say though, my experience of mogul (as limited as it may be) makes me think that alot of this technique isnt terribly easily put into practice! Ive mainly come across large icy mogul, sometimes as big as a VW beetle often with very very narrow passages in between. The thought of going like some of those vids makes my toes curl! In fact I cant actually recall having seen anyone doing more than about a half dozen careful bumps at a time...... so have I just seen some darned tough bumps or is it more likely the case that so very few people can mogul properly that I just havent hapened across someone who can?
Adam
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buns, "isnt terribly easily put into practice"
Nope, it isn't! That's what makes it challenging and hence fun if you like a challenge!
"very few people can mogul properly" - IMHO, I think that's possibly the case; also, if you aren't hanging out around bumps runs then that will reduce your likelihood of seeing anyone ripping them good. (Few being a relative term. Instructors/pros/racers aside I know very few people who can run a line of bumps gracefully and at speed). And I know quite a lot of people...
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I spent my last two ski weeks hanging about on the moguls, so i was around them a fair wee bit! It just seemed to me that very few of the moguls I saw could you physically have done what the guys in the videos do! The moguls were too tall, too steep and too irregular.....Darn I have alot of mogul fun to have next trip!
Adam
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buns,
I once saw the Australian...!!!!! Ski team rip down Toviere and they were hitting jumps with great tricks so that is as good as I have seen.
And I also saw some yound americans 'prepare'a run and straight-line it. They spent all day on it and by the end of that day one or two were making a very good fist of zipperline.
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buns, you probably know this already but the guys in the videos don't ski natural moguls. The moguls are designed specifically with fast zip line skiing in mind and kickers placed in particular places where they are to do their tricks.
I ski fairly regularly with a big mountain competition freerider. You know, the type of guy who skis flat out just skiing over whatever he comes across next. He skis every type of natural mogul damn quick - but still nothing like the speed of knee movement the specialist mogullers achieve.
However, I have seen him jump about 60 feet off a ledge and land in a mogul field, immediately ripping through the moguls - literally unbelivable but I saw it nonetheless.
PS - I didn't follow him !! 
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buns, without seeing them, then can't really comment but yes you can (as I guess you've seen) get bumps that just aren't really very skiable in that particular (zipper) fashion. I guess you've just "seen some darned tough bumps". Fun in their own right however... I still reckon skiing fast, graceful, fall line bumps is an uncommon skill.
B00thy, "you probably know this already but the guys in the videos don't ski natural moguls" - I cordially disagree. I can picture quite a few sequences where they're just ripping up on "Mary Jane" or wherever - just nice natural moguls with their mates. Depends on the video in question.
Although maybe the fashion now is just to show freestylers racing competition ziplines?
My ski movies experience is slightly dated to mid-nineties and earlier... You know, watching Wayne Wong in a Dick Barrymore epic in the Osprey lounge, Aviemore at age 6 or 7 and just soooo wanting to be able to "hot dog", man.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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David Murdoch, Sorry to cordially disagree back but I have watched bump fields being built for championships. They are built according to a design and specification. Perhaps we are talking about two different videos.
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You know it makes sense.
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B00thy, You are quite correct. My apologies in not being more specific. We are definitely talking different vids. Yes, completely understand for comp bumps they do build size and shape precisely. Don't like the sound of hay bales tho'. And, also, you are absolutely correct when you discuss different technique in "race" bumps.
What I referred to as the alternate was generally available bumps that appear en or hors piste. Definitely different bumps. BTW I would love to see watch your freeski mate ski!!!
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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B00thy, just to be clear - all I'm saying is that I have seen sequences that weren't filmed on comp rutlines. They were on your average bump run. And looked aweseome...
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Poster: A snowHead
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buns, if they're soft enough, by your 4th or 5th run down they'll start forming to your turns.
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Oh goodness no..... the moguls I have seen would need a pneumatic drill in order to reform them!!! I think you guys need to pray to the skigods that I get to see good moguls next year so i can understand what you are talking about!
Adam
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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buns,
I hope you fulfil that ambition!! Fingers crossed on your behalf
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FAQ
Well I tried out a few songs and so many of them didn't work. My best song was:
but only near the bottom where it didn't really show. 