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I have mentioned that skiboarding can sometimes be more similar in ride to an inline skating type of feel than to a skiing type of feel. This is true. An inherent advantage of skiboards is that they "can" be ridden like skis ... or ... not.
You can call it whatever you want ... compare it to pro level inline and say it sucks ... compare it to pro level skiing and say it sucks. Whatever. It opens up doors for riding possibilities that are not practical on longer skis. This is why many people enjoy skiboards or inline skis, or snowblades, or skiblades... whatever you want to choose to call them ... more than long skis.
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| comprex wrote: |
| skiboard316 wrote: |
You look at it and see "lame". I look at it and see the potential for tons of fun. To each his own.
The first vid clip I linked looks to be 60-75 cm.
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They are 90 cm.
They are also reverse cambered, reverse sidecut, and manufactured with deliberately un-flat bases. |
Whatever they are ... they look like fun to me.
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| skiboard316 wrote: |
Whatever they are ... they look like fun to me. |
Great! I've got 2 NOS unmounted pairs for sale, would you like powder blue or original black?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| rob@rar wrote: |
| skiboard316, you seem keen to challenge other people in this thread to post video of their skiing, suggesting if they're not very good themselves they're not really worthy of having an opinion. Wouldyou care to lead by example and post some video of you skiing or skiboarding? It's not important to me to see you ski, but it might give you a bit more credibility when you challenge other people's abilities. |
I am not the one criticising someone's technique or lack thereof. I'm not the one saying your equipment is rubbish. I am not the one who doesn't ski ... trying to tell someone who does what is wrong with their sport, their peers or their choice of equipment. Have I bagged on skiing once in this entire thread? Have I bagged on snowboarding once in this entire thread? No, I have not.
You are the one who admits you've never been on skiboards. But you say you've been on short skis, say they are the same thing, so you are qualified to be a critic. OK ... if you say so.
What I challenge is this: If you are so competent and confident in your technical ability or your knowledge and ability to apply sound mechanics, strap on a good set of skiboards and do what the people in the vid clips are doing ... and do it better than they do.
It is a lot easier to try to be a judge than to do it yourself.
Sorry if I don't put much value on people who have not actually been there and done that. But, it is common arrogance I see all the time: people who have no idea what it is like to be an NFL quarterback but because they played some football in grade school, they can berate the tv and give detailed technical explanations of poor mechanics when their favorite QB throws a game ending interception.
Everyone wants to think they know something about everything even if they know nothing about something.
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skiboard316, so you're not going to post some video then? Maybe time to stop challenging other people's abilities and just base the discussion on first principles about how to use the kit?
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| comprex wrote: |
| skiboard316 wrote: |
Whatever they are ... they look like fun to me. |
Great! I've got 2 NOS unmounted pairs for sale, would you like powder blue or original black? |
I'd actually seriously consider taking you up on the offer? Are you in UK though? Shipping costs might be more than the equpment.
Cost? Binding set-up? Got pics you can email me?
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| rob@rar wrote: |
| skiboard316, so you're not going to post some video then? Maybe time to stop challenging other people's abilities and just base the discussion on first principles about how to use the kit? |
Again, I have never claimed to be of superior technical proficiency or skill. I think i've made it pretty clear, I cannot do what most of the people in those vid clips are doing and am a relative beginner.
But, if you think it will serve some purpose, I will have some vids I can post after next week. Have an entire week of riding coming up that will include some back-country, some trees, plenty of groomers.
I really don't know what good it will do you to see me riding other than to give you opportunity to make some comments about how badly I suck ... but since I have no ego to protect ... sure ... why not?
Even better.
I'll demo some skis for a day and post up some footage of that to give you plenty of fodder for ripping on me. In return, you put on a pair of 100 cm skiboards for a day, try to replicate the conditions and riding done in all the vid clips I posted.
Fair is fair.
Last edited by After all it is free  on Wed 24-02-10 22:47; edited 1 time in total
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skiboard316, I was kind of hoping that you would stop making the debate personal by asking how well other people ski rather than engaging with what they are actually saying. But if you're not going to do that at least posting some video of your skiing will enable other people to see where you're coming from.
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| rob@rar wrote: |
| skiboard316, I was kind of hoping that you would stop making the debate personal by asking how well other people ski rather than engaging with what they are actually saying. But if you're not going to do that at least posting some video of your skiing will enable other people to see where you're coming from. |
See above ... I added a bit to my last post.
If you are game for this bargain, I am.
And besides ... I have not been the one making this personal. I'm not the one saying skiing sucks, skiers suck.
I don't care how well you ski or how well anyone else skis. There are people of all different abilities up on the mountain every day. If they are having fun and not hurting anyone, I don't care one bit what their technical ability is.
However, if you are going to be a critic of people who ride skiboards ... walk in the shoes first.
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skiboard316, 
You opened this thread by giving some examples of good skiboard riding. I didn't think they were good examples of skiboard riding and I explained why. Your response was not to enter a discussion about what makes good technique (for skiing or skiboarding, which are essentially the same thing IMO), but to accuse me and others of being armchair quarterbacks; say we've never walked the walk; and despite your protestations that you're not making this personal anytime someone says something you disagree with you challenge them to demonstrate their skiing abilities. And if all else fails you take refuge in "well, I don't care about technique I'm only interested in having fun" as if those two things are mutually exclusive!
I have no interest in seeing you ski and I certainly don't want to make this a discussion based on who is the better skier. I won't get into a pissing contest by posting my videos against yours. My skiing is assessed formally and informally, by examiners and by clients all season long. If other people want to weigh up the "legitimacy" of what is contributed to this thread I think it should be done on the basis of a reasonable and non-personal discussion about skiing, not the perceived abilities of the people who are contributing.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Not going to lie - I kinda want to see skiboard316 skiboard. Sorry rob@rar, not so fussed about your skiing 
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| skiboard316 wrote: |
I'd actually seriously consider taking you up on the offer? Are you in UK though?
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US, no bindings, never been drilled, pics already posted above^ (blue pair is plain blue, the logo fell off over the years); you will need 77mm wide binding brakes if you choose to use release bindings.
Make me an offer, one pair or both (you may want both, just for the ski-dance vibe)
Last edited by Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name: on Wed 24-02-10 23:25; edited 3 times in total
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Poster: A snowHead
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Only just read this thread. It's so sweet.
skiboard316 you should become friends with TomFromAustria.
Fair play to you for sticking to your guns, but seriously, what you do is GAY. Stop it.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| arv wrote: |
| Not going to lie - I kinda want to see skiboard316 skiboard. Sorry rob@rar, not so fussed about your skiing |
I don't want to see rob@rar ski either. I wanna see him on 100 cm skiboards in powder, chop, going off jumps, carving, spinning, jumping, grinding, etc, etc.
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| skiboard316 wrote: |
| I don't want to see rob@rar ski either. I wanna see him on 100 cm skiboards in powder, chop, going off jumps, carving, spinning, jumping, grinding, etc, etc. |
There you go again. What would that prove?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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skiboard316, do you have any Erasure records I could borrow?
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| rob@rar wrote: |
skiboard316,
... you challenge them to demonstrate their skiing abilities. . |
I've never asked you to demonstrate your skiing abilities. Do you have a reading comprehension problem?
I've asked that you demonstrate better technique on skiboards if you are going to be such a critic of the equipment and the riders.
If you cannot or won't do that, then you make my case for me.
You could post up vid all day long of pro level riders killing it on the slopes. The problem with that is that none of us are pro level riders. I am not concerned with what pro level riders do and how well they do it. I'm concerned with what I can do as a recreational rider and the equipment that I chose to do it on.
It's like trying to tell someone whos getting into fitness that they need to eat 200 grams of protien a day and do sets of massive weight at 3 - 5 repitions ... ensuring they break parrallel on their squats so they are ready for the big powerelifting meet. Not every fitness buff wants to be a bodybuilder or powerlifter. Three-quarter squats work just fine for general conditioning. Not everyone wants 20 inch biceps. Most will be perfectly content to be active, prevent injury, and improve general fitness.
You may not be satisfied with what the riders in the vids are doing. I am. If I can ride that well in all those conditions, I will be perfectly content. So would pretty much every recreational skier and skiboarder I know and ride with. (though none of us will probably ever be trying to huck air like the freestylers).
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| skiboard316 wrote: |
I've never asked you to demonstrate your skiing abilities.
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I've asked that you demonstrate better technique on skiboards |
You clearly can't see the irony is those two statements.
If you think I don't have the technical ability to provide a commentary on those videos please correct what I've written about them rather than make pointless requests to see me ski.
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| rob@rar wrote: |
If you think I don't have the technical ability to provide a commentary on those videos |
"There goes Errol Flynn and the brother of Mario Matt."
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Spyderman, At least he didn't say Errol Flynn and SuperMario.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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skiboard316, give me a shout over PM if you want them; shipping from 22202 shouldn't be horrible.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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rob@rar, you're being pretty effectively trolled, just fwiw...
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skiboard316, try this on your snowlerblades:
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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parlor, I think he already suggested that he didn't want to. And judging someone's sexuality on the basis of they like to attach to their feet is frankly infantile.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Ah, this has to be one of my favourite threads at the moment - sets me up well for the rest of the day with a good giggle! 
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I'm running out of popcorn 
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| skiboard316 wrote: |
| Three-quarter squats work just fine for general conditioning.. |
They are lady-exercises.
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clarky999, so when you say skiboards are crap at all things (except for messing around with the kids maybe), then evidently skinnies/fats are crap at certain things too, so a similar if not watered down argument likewise exists
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Crap's a stronger word than I would use, but in essence, yeah! Apart from they both have things they're actually good at too! |
there is a teensy weensy bit of - (can not telemark so I will ski  ), can not ski powder so I will get the latest and best powder ski, can not carve so I will get the latest and best carving skis, can not ski tricks so I will get the latest and best twin tips, can not ski long skis so I will get shorter ones ............. can not ski so I will get skiboards ..... can not skiboard so I will learn to board - err not
Doesn't all seem too different to me  |
Not at all, I can ski anyhting that I would ski on any of my skis, just I prefer to use the best tool for the job when I have the option. You can either use a hammer or a screwdriver to put a screw into some wood, but which is going to do it better and smoother?
Although I do wish I could telemark - when I have some spare cash I'm defo gonna give it a go!
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clarky999, I do not mean you specifically - anyone who can ski boot/knee deep powder on their piste skis has my respect and has earned the right to pull the fatties out of their quiver; I mean those who buy a specific ski for specific conditions rather than learning and being able to ski in any conditions on their main 'bread and butter' ski that they mainly use.
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My everyday telemark ski was 112mm underfoot. I fixed the heal, fixed the problem. Now that was a fashion statement.
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| rayscoops wrote: |
| clarky999, I do not mean you specifically - anyone who can ski boot/knee deep powder on their piste skis has my respect and has earned the right to pull the fatties out of their quiver; I mean those who buy a specific ski for specific conditions rather than learning and being able to ski in any conditions on their main 'bread and butter' ski that they mainly use. |
I'd agree if someone was using a wide ski to learm piste skiing however ....
first time I tried to ski powder was on a pair of Bandits XX'S ca 74mm wide. I was falling over all the time and not getting anywhere. A pair of pocket rockets helped me to get started. My main ski now is a touring ski with a 76mm waist.
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