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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, do you feel your back is in danger? If yes, weigh up the pros/cons, if not, don't. Simples.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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outside of the park, I don't see the point much.
But I am sure someone will come up with that freak accident where he/she/the neighnbour's dog would have been sliced in two katana stylee if it wasn't for the back protector...
What clarky999 says..
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As I set off every day to ski off piste I always wear a backpack so the backpack itself can provide back protection in the event of an awkward fall. It may not be as efficient as body armour but I feel it will be more than sufficient in most cases.
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Ian Kenvyn, do you frequently ski slopes where there are lot of exposed rocks or pointy stuff that's just under the surface of the snow (ie, off-piste runs in rocky terrain)? I've never felt like I was in particular danger of hurting my back (unlike my head which has taken a few hard knocks from time to time). I broke a rib and tore some muscles last month after a high speed crash on piste which involved a bit of air, but I don't think that a back protector would have made any difference to those injuries.
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Kruisler, Funny Story Got Creamed one year while wearing one and guess what..... the Bastward managed to get his pole underneath it and straight into the base of my back
Was glad I was wearing it at the time to be honest but the reason i wear it is for Trees and Park more than anything. Like Helmets I guess its a personal choice.
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I wear one every time i go out on the board. Its a motorbiking one by Alpinestars. I primarily bought it for wearing under my motorbike leathers when out on the bike, but I figure why not wear it when out on the slopes (on piste or off)? I think it is pretty unlikely it will ever be called into use, but if it ever is, i'll be glad of it.
Also, seeing how i'm a boarder, it's nice and insulating for slouching in the snow.
For what it's worth therefore, I think you should wear one.
Unless you don't want to.
It's a bit like the skid lid debate. I hated them until i got one, now i really like them.
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Kruisler, so other hard objects not found in parks like trees rocks and ice chunks are less dangerous for your back?
richjp, I would say the opposite, my back pack has hard things in it like a shovel and probe. I dont particularly want to use those to cushion my fall. Or my lunch for that matter!!
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Is this the new "helmet" thread?
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| Liveezy wrote: |
Kruisler, so other hard objects not found in parks like trees rocks and ice chunks are less dangerous for your back?
richjp, I would say the opposite, my back pack has hard things in it like a shovel and probe. I dont particularly want to use those to cushion my fall. Or my lunch for that matter!! |
So has mine but with the pack itself and a spare layer inside it's actually sort of "squidgy".
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| clarky999 wrote: |
| If yes, weigh up the pros/cons, if not, don't. Simples. |
So what's the "con"?
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abc, Comfort, or lack thereof. Expense of buying one.
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You know it makes sense.
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| alex_heney wrote: |
| abc, Comfort, or lack thereof. Expense of buying one. |
Comfort is probably a combination of personal + specific model issue. I would imagine majority of people can find a model that are "comfortable" to wear.
I still don't wear one. But...
After losing an arguement with a tree, cracking my ribs ON THE BACKSIDE, I have a different appreciation for a back protector.
It happened on the first day of a one week vacation!
Had I got a back protector, and hypothetically speaking it cushioned the impact enough to have prevented the rib injury, I would have enjoyed the holiday a lot more. Consider the cost of the holiday (and the lose of income during the week while I was planning to "have fun"), the cost of the back protector would have been rather insignificant.
Fortunately, it was the last trip of the season so the injury didn't affect any other holidays. But I now think of back protector more like releasable bindings. While a broken leg isn't life threatoning as brain demage, it's inconvenient enough that I'd rather pay a little extra to reduce the chance of it happening.
Granted, most punters don't ski amoung dense trees. But I did occasionally heard of people being crashed into from behind...
Last edited by You know it makes sense. on Mon 22-02-10 23:49; edited 1 time in total
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Ian Kenvyn, I wear one when not wearing my backpack which has one built in. In the park they are great protection and in the off piste they can really help sometimes. At the end of the day it is a personal thing, but for me well worth the cost.
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Poster: A snowHead
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| Ian Kenvyn wrote: |
| I am guessing snowheads will have a view |
Nah, I wouldn't have thought so.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Guys in back protectors always remind me of him  .
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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What is the weight of these things?
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| abc wrote: |
| clarky999 wrote: |
| If yes, weigh up the pros/cons, if not, don't. Simples. |
So what's the "con"? |
Cost, comformt, sweatieness off the top of my head, can't really be bothered to think beyond that atm. For me, I've never really felt my back to be that exposed, so I don't feel it's worth it for me, even offpiste. If I was a park rat pulling inverts all day I may think otherwise.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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After hubby was hit hard from behind last year and got a broken neck, he got a back protector to cushion the impact if it should happen again, and to protect the injury as we went skiing again right at the end of the season. He didn't wear it at New Year, but that was because he left it at home. achilles, Julesb's is very light, and he will be wearing it when we go again in March.
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rayscoops, luggage allowance not normally a problem for us , we carried it to eosb and we flew ryanair. Kit is normally at our apartment though.
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Helen Beaumont, well yes if your drive or pay for lots of bags at £40 a pop on RyanTurpinAir 
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I wear Dainense HPC body armour from time to time. This is really motorcycle kit but I ride too so it makes it useful for the Summer. It's got a detachable back protector and assorted shoulder, elbow and chest pads held in a mesh. I originally bought it for race training but now wear it if the resort is busy, or if I'm skiing off-piste.
It replaces a layer under my hoody and is pretty comfortable. The only slight issue is that my transceiver is slightly more uncomfortable over it.
Recommended.
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| Liveezy wrote: |
| Kruisler, so other hard objects not found in parks like trees rocks and ice chunks are less dangerous for your back? |
If you ski where there are trees, rocks, ice chunks you're unlikely to be on piste... from the tone of the OP, I assumed he was talking about the vast majority of leisure skiers plying their trade on pistes.
Back in the early 90's, skiing in the pyrenees, one of my mates was having a few falls and kept messing us about after each one, exagerating his pain for a laugh. Then once, just as he was setting off he had a really innocuous fall (like that downhill french skier last week)
He started complaining and we laughed him off thinking he was up to the usual trick. Then we realised his tome was different. We climbed back up to him, his skis/poles were somehow tangles, and we moved him... blood everywhere underneath him...a lot of it!!
We called the pisteurs pronto. One of his skis had managed to slice on of his calves really bad. Big blood loss, helicopter rescue to the nearest Hospital...
Shall we all start wearing shin pads/leg armor?
You can't prevent everything so not point trying..
My point was, to repeast myself:
| Kruisler wrote: |
| What clarky999 says.. |
i.e.:
| clarky999 wrote: |
| Well, do you feel your back is in danger? If yes, weigh up the pros/cons, if not, don't. Simples. |
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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rayscoops, we had one bag each.
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Yes. I started wearing one a few seasons ago after witnessing an instructor friend getting a fairly bad clout to the back after a pretty insignificant fall on an easy bit of off piste between pistes (hidden rock). Even if you don't do any off piste there are obstacles on the piste (even rocks! I always remove them when spotted) which a back protector will protect against. And it keeps me warm!
You don't notice it when wearing so I can't really think of a reason not to wear one?
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You know it makes sense.
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Helen Beaumont, I normally travel with just my board bag, and no other hold luggage, so carrying such an piece of plastic would be a pain, likewise I ditched the helmet a few years ago for the same reason 
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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rayscoops, NO NO NO NO, please don't mention the "H" word 
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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rayscoops, it weighs about the same a a piece of polystyrene and you can't tell he is wearing it under his jacket. He does wear a helmet. As you say each to their own.
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You can't prevent everything so not point trying..
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Love to see that statement, would be priceless in a helmet thread!
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Ian Kenvyn, do you ski on crowded pistes or in places where there may be idiots who don't care about the safety of others? I never considered back protection until I was hit hard from behind by a snowboarding teenager while minding my own business on the edge of the piste.
I now make a point of aggressively verbally abusing anyone who seriously threatens my safety. If they think there's a chance they're going to get whacked by a mad Englishman they might think twice about skiing like that around other people in future.
I wear a lumbar protector and impact shorts, but I have an existing lower back injury and not enough muscle/fat to protect me if I fall:
http://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?p=1472601
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