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Do skiing resort owners economic with the truth?

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Just my experience with the resorts I like to support hence can't offer names.

Piste thin at place – parts of the piste has no snow

Runs broken at the bottom – runs not skiable and you have to take off the skis to walk.

Run closed at present due to ice, will open if softens – The snow has melt, frozen into a block of ice and is unsafe even for the best skiers.

Light dusting of snow on a hard base – a polite way to tell you that there are a lot of ice patches

Middle runs getting thin and narrow – You may not be able to ski down but with good skill you just may. In any case do service the skis after you finish.

The opening of ski tows is subject to demand – Excuse for non-attendance.

The tows will only open if the weather improves – the improvement needed is either there is snow on the ground, or the operator can find the tow himself/herself from the dense fog or the wind isn’t strong enough to blow skiers away.
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That some most of them up quite well I think Laughing
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
"Snow depth at 2200m is 120cm" - we got all the snow together that we could find and made a pile out of it. The pile measured ca 120cm high (+/- 50cm)
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It's not just ski resort owners who are less than frank -it also applies to the SCGB reps who supply the snow reports for UK newspapers. They are hosted by the resorts and it's hardly in their interests to antagonise their hosts if they want to be invited back next year. I recall a thread sometime ago headed "the best skiing is to be found on the upper slopes", which is a euphemism for crap conditions lower down.
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SCGB reps tend to post the local resort reports as their own anyway, the only thing they might add is a little comment like "10 cm of extra snow this afternoon" or "fantastic off piste skiing today" which wouldn't be in the resorts own report
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Hmmm,saikee, are those from Sc****nd ?

Best I heard was 'Today we have Indian Skiing.....................it's Apache here and Apache there'. OK it's not quite a snow report, but it made us laugh.
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I've said this one before, but my Danish mate points out that if you see anyone measuring the depth in a drift or on a roof, he's measuring the depths for the snow reports. He mentioned about some Danish rep who got thrown off the pistes for measuring the piste depth himself...e.g. on the piste.
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Good point, skanky, . I wonder how far down a pisted run you would get before you come to soil or rock. My guess would be around 15-20 cm most times. Any snowHead body tried it?
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Chris, it's probably a bit more, I was told that the piste basher drivers in La Rosiere won't bash a piste if there's less than 40 cms depth, apparently it can cause damage to the machine.
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Chris Bish,

I have a good look at a piste basher recently and the tracks were made up of metal strips of about 5" to 6" (or 10 to 15cm) deep. Below that depth the snow would have to support the weight of the machine. Thus David@traxvax is likely to be right with 40cm blanket of snow so that after the ripping layer of 15cm there is still a layer of 25cm of snow to "smooth" the profile of the slope (accommodating rocks, stones, vegetation, tree stumps, changes of slope etc). 15-20cm is unlikely to work unless the piste is founded on pure peat.
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saikee, That sounds almost like a mirror image of Nevis ranges reports Sad
I was going to go up there this coming week for a few days but you've got me thinking of changing my mind and plumping for Cairngorm instead which I know to be ok.
Does lifts being shown as "opening" also mean they're fishing for customers with a promise they know they cannot keep?
I really wanted to ski the back corries this season but now am thinking I will be wasting my time Sad
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rockyrobin,

The bit "Good cover on Summit" is spot on when I visited Nevis and I bet it is still the case. It was simply as good as any where in the Alps. I believe we can do with more web cams. The web cam can't lie. Cairnggorm web cam is definitely giving us a lot of confidence.
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So if you're just off somewhere snowy come back and post a snow report of your own and we'll all love you very much
saikee, I saw some pictures over on Winterhighland.com I think and it looked very impressive Smile
Only problem is that I was up at both CGM and Glenshee a fortnight ago and the week before too and the conditions then were the best i've ever seen in the flesh.
I feel anything less now and I will be dissapointed Sad
Guess i'm being greedy Laughing snowHead
Here's a piccy of when I was at Glenshee:-

Wish it was always like that Sad Felt like I was skiing in the French alps. Can always dream Laughing

I agree with you about the piste cams. It would be great if ALL the resorts could invest in some decent cams with wipers on all their major pistes so we can get a birds eye view of how things are doing instead of relying on chinese whispers and conjecture Laughing
I'm only saying this as I want an active desktop background of the cams snowHead
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 You know it makes sense.
You know it makes sense.
The cameras don't have to be equiped with wipers, one of my favorite webcams is behind a window looking out, but I wish more webcams would actually show you the piste areas rather than village centers or lift buildings
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Chris Bish, I think that the minimum usable snow depth depends on the underlying terrain. If it's rocky more snow is needed than on alpine meadows. In Kitzbuhel, for example, the lower runs can function OK on 6" (can't we all?), which is probably just as well.
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