 Poster: A snowHead
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MoreThan travel insurance claim that almost a quarter of British skiers begin the morning with 7+ units of alcohol in their blood.
This report from Metro.co.uk
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| The poll of 1,072 skiers and snowboarders also showed 74 per cent believed drinking heavily the night before did not affect their skiing. |
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| 31 per cent wrongly believed their insurance would not be affected if they caused a serious accident on the slopes having drunk heavily the night before. |
Did you take part in this survey? Anyone know how the survey was conducted, in terms of measuring people's blood/alcohol?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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much higher on a snowheads bash 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Not that I've been in many resort medical centres (luckily), butI don't remember ever being asked to take a breathalyser test before being treated. Unless they enforce this, I can't see how this could be policed.
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 Hungover? Probably. Drunk? I don't think so.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Drunk? no way - we went out at 11/12 most days (latest was 14:30) after a full english, copious amounts of tea and a bit of a doze. Lovely job 
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Drinking on a ski holiday is normally a much earlier evening event than it is in the UK. I'm tucked up in bed by midnight, whereas a weekend night out on the town at home sees me rolling in at 4am. Not that I drink enough to get drunk anyway, but it's just an observation that most ski resorts are pretty dead after 11pm. So still being drunk at 8am the next morning is going to mean having drunk 12 units or more. Do people really do that?
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I wonder how this compares with any other kind of holiday. Without a baseline it's hardly worthy of note.
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......... so the other 77% are drunk in the afternoon/evening?
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queen bodecia, I understood the advice was now 1 hour (of recovery) per unit... at least that is what I think the bloke on TV was suggesting the other night to avoid being over 0.05 and thus driving illegally the next day...
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| According to Road Safety Scotland, it can take up to 12 hours to be safe to drive after drinking one bottle of wine or four pints of strong lager. The rule of thumb is that each unit of alcohol takes about an hour to process. |
and France has 0.05 blood limit for driving - lower than the UK 0.08
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Hurtle, to some - but its a holiday. We value the apres as much as the snow time so we make sure we fit both in
Steilhang, nope this was in St Anton last week!
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Next week, in Alpe d'Huez, it will be 24%.
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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little tiger,
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I understood the advice was now 1 hour (of recovery) per unit... at least that is what I think the bloke on TV was suggesting
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You start metabolising it after you absorb it though, so a lot will depend on when you start drinking rather than when you stop as well as the total ammount.
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Poster: A snowHead
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| So still being drunk at 8am the next morning is going to mean having drunk 12 units or more. Do people really do that? |
.. 12 units..? i could do that at lunch time at work........
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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77% of British Skiers are sober in the morning 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| Boredsurfing wrote: |
| 77% of British Skiers are sober in the morning |
or still in bed.
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5 hours ago, this 'survey' was added to the 'MoreThan' survey:
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| Did you take part in this survey? Anyone know how the survey was conducted, in terms of measuring people's blood/alcohol? |
That's probably MoreThan enough for the moment.
I'm going to give MoreThan a ring and invite them to comment on this thread. Stand by.
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[Update] Have just phoned, and emailed a link to this thread to the MoreThan press office, requesting info on how the alcohol was measured in the skiers' bloodstreams.
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I thought the main purpose of going for a morning ski was to help clear the system ready for the next cheeky afternoon drink.
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Oh well, I'm a lightweight with a strict five unit limit. After 12 units I'd be fit for nowhere but the bathroom.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Update with additional detail on this story:
http://www.easier.com/64870-more-than-travel-insurance-safe-skiing-advice.html
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After quizzing over 1,000 British skiers and snowboarders on their après-ski drinking habits, MORE TH>N worked with General Practitioner Harvinder Gill to calculate just how drunk people will be on the slopes this year during morning ski sessions. With seven units of alcohol in their systems at 9:00am, Harvinder was able to demonstrate how skiers and boarders will be susceptible to the following:
Increased reaction times
Impaired balance
Reduced visual acuity, peripheral vision and glare recovery
Impairment of perception
Loss of critical judgement. |
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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roga, Makes perfect sense. They spend thousands of pounds to get to a ski resort where drinks are probably more expensive than they are anywhere else on the planet ( barring other ski resorts elsewhere ) and then proceed to get totally smashed to the point where they are too f*cked to actually do any skiing. I mean, yeah... why not?
On the other hand why not just stay at home and get smashed there 
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Steilhang, because a hangover in the mountains is almost enjoyable  and we dont have gluhwein, hot choc with rum, flugels, desperados (easily available at least), stroh 80, jagertee etc at home
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You know it makes sense.
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Steilhang, it seems that at least 23% (more actually) make it to the pistes though
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Alpine nightclubs serve until around 4 or 5 am, so if awaking for first lifts at 8 you most probably are still drunk.
Also consider how many holidaymakers are students and how that would skew the results from the middle-aged snowhead tucked up in bed by 11pm...
I assume however that this is off the back of the British Embassy in Paris's 'terrors of drinking and skiing' campaign and can safely be ignored.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Nadenoodlee,
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| Steilhang, because a hangover in the mountains is almost enjoyable |
Uhuh!
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| and we dont have gluhwein, hot choc with rum, flugels, desperados (easily available at least), stroh 80, jagertee etc at home |
So maybe there's a business idea there? Mooserwirt Hemel?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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To work out your units you need to know the ABV or ALc Vol of what your drinking, and the volume. ABV x ml / 1000 = units. So 5.0%abv x 500ml / 1000 = 2.5 units.
Drink say 8 'continental' pints of a 5.0 premium lager = 20 units . If you start drinking at 6pm, then 20 hours later you will at Zero, so thats 2pm the next day. This is an average , your personal rate will depend on liver function , age , sex, weight and consumption rates.
So from this it is easy to see that the survey might be broadly correct. There is no way to speed up the flushing process, you will feel more human after coffee and high fat content food, but the BAC will be the same.
IIRC there is a drug that the UK hospitals are not allowed to use to sober people up faster.
Its Ok, I here you say , i only drink the wine. Its easy to drink 1 ltr of wine over an evening, at 14% thats 14 units , or if you drink with dinner 7pm through to 9am
Its almost impossible to work out your blood alcohol content (BAC) expressed as mg/ltr from the units consumed / time formula. The police can do it , and can convict you as a back count, but they do need alot of suplimentary evidence. You can guesstimate it , but I would not trust it for driving.
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| Ernst Goldsmith wrote: |
MoreThan travel insurance claim that almost a quarter of British skiers begin the morning with 7+ units of alcohol in their blood.
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...and?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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So they asked 1000 skiers and boarders - so what? Out of how many go skiing/boarding? How many of that sample were a representative cross-section of skiing/boarding Brits - from the tee-total through moderate drinkers to the complete beer monsters. Or was the total sample taken from a nightclub at 3am? No I've not read the whole report but I reckon it was flawed research
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| albinomountainbadger wrote: |
| Also consider how many holidaymakers are students and how that would skew the results from the middle-aged snowhead tucked up in bed by 11pm... |
Ahem.....the biggest party animals I've ever skied with by far are pensioners. Unlike us workers they can sleep it off when they get home!!!
Seriously though, how am I expected to get down a nasty black without a few gluhweins
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queen bodecia, keeping up with the Charlatanefcs is quite a task.
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[quote="halfhand"]So they asked 1000 skiers and boarders - so what?
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So that is quite a large sample size.
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| Out of how many go skiing/boarding? How many of that sample were a representative cross-section of skiing/boarding Brits - from the tee-total through moderate drinkers to the complete beer monsters. Or was the total sample taken from a nightclub at 3am? No I've not read the whole report but I reckon it was flawed research |
It very possibly was, but we simply don't have sufficient information to know. It is rare that a survey would go to the trouble of getting that large a sample without also making some efforts to ensure it was a broad sample, but even then, it was probably only a few large resorts (maybe only one), and habits in different resorts are likely to be very different.
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I've skied more than half cut in the am plenty of times.
Couple of face shots soon takes care of things
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