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Avalanche Balloon System - remote triggering - any views?

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ABS (Avalanche Balloon System) have another 'world first'. To supplement their existing 'emergency inflation' airbags, designed to float you above an avalanche by pulling a trigger, ABS have introduced a method of remote electronic/radio triggering so that the user does not have to pull the trigger.

Another member of a ski group, quite possibly spotting the avalanche before the ABS-wearer can react in time, hits the remote to save his/her colleague ahead. Here are the details from the ABS website:

http://www.abs-airbag.com/wireless_activation_eng.php?chid=1327&lang=uk&sid=366db3f3b7fa67e1da33a31705c8f398&m=17

Anyone used the ABS system? Ever used it in an avalanche or seen it used in this situation? Any views on this?
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Never seen one used in anger but in the comfort of a very nice restaurant yesterday I saw a guide wearing an ABS backpack. Not sure that if I were his client, I would have felt overly comfortable. Am I being mean?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Instructor of my group had one. He said if there was an avalanche and we were caught he could help us, whereas if he was caught in it we were all dead anyway. Fair enough!
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cp1000, are you serious? A guide is f&%king crazy if he doesn't wear an airbag. Guides can get caught like anyone else and as they're off piste all day, every day the law of averages says it's probably going to happen one day however careful they are.

Would you hesitate to get in a taxi if the driver was wearing a seatbelt?
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One of my friends who lives in Lech said a couple of her friends who are both instructors were caught in an Avi a couple of years ago, one was wearing an ABS system, he got caught so quick he didn't actually have time to 'deploy'! Both were buried but uninjured.
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Trouble is... when you need the remote in a hurry it'll be jammed down the back of the sofa.
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I can certainly see a role for this for freeride/extreme guys where a spotter/cameraman might be able to press the button.

You just wonder if all the airbags on the hill might go off when someone pressed the button Toofy Grin

cp1000, I have skied with at least two guides with them. What is made me think was "good - this chap does actually want to get home - and does realise avalanches might happen to him"

Bode Swiller, well obviously you would attach it to your person with a length of red string wink
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cp1000, another point is that the guide goes first and might not have full confidence in his client's ability to find him should he get buried.
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Can I make a long range transmitter on the same frequency and pop it when a full gondola of people wearing ABS backpacks passes overhead? Twisted Evil
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3 guys sadly died in les arcs a week or so ago, all were equipped with ABS but was a pretty massive slide. - http://pistehors.com/news/forums/viewthread/431/

Check the photo in the thread - scary...
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The photo really is chilling. Nobody stood a chance there.

I figured that my post might get provoke debate! I agree that guides are entitled to do everything they can to ensure their safety in their inherently dangerous profession. It was odd seeing one wearing the ABS though (first time for me) - particularly when I have never ever seen one wear a helmet and yet every guide/instructor I have skiied with this year has taken a tumble or two in off-piste.
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Bode Swiller wrote:
Trouble is... when you need the remote in a hurry it'll be jammed down the back of the sofa.


Very witty, Swiller. To wipe the smile off your complacent face, could I remind you that Cairngorm - your imminent destination - has been subject to avalanche control recently and that part of the mountain has been closed. If you're proposing to take your sofa up the hill, I'd remind you:

a. that chairlifts no longer exist on Cairngorm (at least any that are working). If you're proposing to take your living room suite up the funicular then you may not be very popular.

b. you should be skiing with a shovel, transceiver, sniffer dog, probe and - of course - avalanche cord. If you don't have the latter, I can make arrangements (with John Lewis).
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