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BA0738 LHR to GVA 19:25 8th Jan - Will it fly?

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I have just seen that BA has cancelled most of this evening's flights out of LHR.... Currently not snowing in the area - must be due to ice. I am booked on BA 0738 tomorrow at 19:25 for a weekend in Megeve and I have no idea if we will fly. Anyone else on this flight? Do you reckon we will get out?? Forecast is clear but -2 deg at 18:00.
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There's an eight ball gadget you can install on Vista/Windows7..... Wink


Seriously though - good luck, it's funny how we all love to travel to the snow and yet I really don't want it here because it knackers travel plans something rotten!


Last edited by Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person on Thu 7-01-10 22:21; edited 1 time in total
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De-icing is generally the issue rather than anything else as LHR doesn't have the de-icing capacity of other airports in colder locations. I would keep monitoring the full range of departures for LHR-GVA on ba.com from early in the day - at least then you are forewarned and if there is a chance of them rebooking you on an earlier departure and you can make it you can try that tack.
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2010/01/07 17:04
TAF EGLL 071704Z 0718/0824 32008KT 9999 FEW010 SCT025
TEMPO 0718/0821 7000 -SHSN BKN010
BECMG 0721/0724 03010KT PROB30
TEMPO 0721/0724 4000 SHSN BKN007 PROB30
TEMPO 0800/0812 2000 -SN BR BKN004


Thats the TAF (terminal area forecast) for pilots for Heathrow, kinda says if the airport is suitable for aircraft to fly too.

long and short of it is, 30% chance of snow through the night and in the morning Mist and light snow. Cloud at 400ft above the airfield.

If the snow plough's can keep the runways, taxiways and apron clear you should be flying.

Heathrow is showing 0 degrees at 21:50.

Anyway...boring you!

Dave
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midwinter, I like it! Perhaps you should explain how you read that...
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midwinter, thank you for the info... I am also intrigued how you read the TAF.....
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Hi,

Sorry, I have a PPL..

2010/01/07 17:04
TAF EGLL 071704Z 0718/0824 32008KT 9999 FEW010 SCT025
TEMPO 0718/0821 7000 -SHSN BKN010
BECMG 0721/0724 03010KT PROB30
TEMPO 0721/0724 4000 SHSN BKN007 PROB30
TEMPO 0800/0812 2000 -SN BR BKN004

2010/01/07 17:04
TIME & DATE when issued by the Met office

TAF EGLL
What it is and where

071704Z 0718/0824 32008KT 9999 FEW010 SCT025
Day and Time of issue and for how long 07th @ 17:04 Zulu from 07th 18:00 -> 07th 00:00 Wind 320 degrees @ 08knots visibility 10km or more (unlimited) Few clouds at 1000ft scattered clouds at 2500ft

TEMPO 0718/0821 7000 -SHSN BKN010
Temporarily 07th 18:00 -> 08th 21:00 Viability 7km light snow showers, Broken cloud at 1000ft

BECMG 0721/0724 03010KT
Becoming between 07th 21:00 -> 07th 00:00 wind from 030 degrees at 10kts.

PROB30 TEMPO 0721/0724 4000 SHSN BKN007
Probability of 30 percent that Temporarily 07th 21:00 -> 07th 00:00 Viability 4km snow showers, Broken cloud at 700ft

PROB30 TEMPO 0800/0812 2000 -SN BR BKN004
Probability of 30 percent that Temporarily 08th 00:00 -> 08th 12:00 Viability 2km light snow and mist, Broken cloud at 400ft


Hope that helps

Dave
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midwinter, wow, that's brilliant. If you - in due course - had one for Heathrow at 0830 hrs on Sunday morning, that would be mucho appreciated.
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that's hilarious, the written explanation aint much longer than the code Laughing
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Thanks Barry Smile

Here it is again, you all can decode this one.

TAF EGLL 080505Z 0806/0912 01008KT 9999 FEW010 SCT025
TEMPO 0806/0810 7000 BKN005
TEMPO 0812/0912 5000 -SHSN BKN010 PROB30
TEMPO 0900/0910 4000 BR BKN005

Looks like from midday today until tomorrow midday its light snow again.

From BA Website.
BA0738 ----- LHR T5 ----- GVA ----- 08 JAN 19:25 ----- 08 JAN 19:25 ----- Estimated

doesn't say its cancelled.

But like katedenhaag said, its the de-ice that's the problem :/
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Or you can look on the web for TAF decoders

http://en.allmetsat.com/metar-taf/united-kingdom-ireland.php?icao=EGDL

NB A METAR is the current conditions, the TAF gives the forecasts.

This site gets its information from the METARs

http://www.xcweather.co.uk/

Also loads of iphone/pod apps out there that do this.
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A friend did this route last night and spent FOUR hours parked up at LHR (T5) waiting to disembark due to the total shambles which is TF - i.e., not enough de-icing machines, not enough gates, not enough steps, no buses etc., etc. Shocked
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well i've used that flight numerous times and never had a problem

i love how people who have probably used T5 once and read the headlines from when it opened describe it as a shambles. i struggle to think of somewhere of remotely comparable size where the all round experience is better. London City is a bit better but even it has its issues
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You know it makes sense.
I have managed to change my booking to the 17:00 just in case as that one managed to get out last night. Fingers crossed.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
17:00 cancelled - now rebooked onto the 15:05.... which is late, scheduled to leave at 17:10 zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Eek... 15:05 still not left - est dep now 17:40. At least it isn't cancelled...
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A bit pedantic I know, but PROB30 is actually low chance, PROB40 is high chance (don't ask me why!!!).

dunno why they didn't use PROBLO or PROBHI or even have the number represent the actual chance!!
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