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Skis for off and on piste

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tomwilko, are they still trading?
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Scott Missions, that is all.
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Zag skis back in business, www.zagskis.com, just bought a pair of Heli Golds. They have apparently been stiffened up for 2009 / 10 so mean't to be much better on piste and hard pack. These figures look good, especially the radius !!

Heli Gold
Length 181 cm
Sidecut 141-95-119 mm
Radius 15,2 m/cm
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arv, errr, which bit of Europe is Utah in? Google Maps seems all confused and keeps taking me to North America...
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rob@rar wrote:
joshua wrote:
But you know sometimes when your on piste you spot a great bit of powder and would love to get in it but its not so great on the supersports I have now Laughing

Perfectly sensible to go for skis which will relish that great bit of powder (if you're prepared to accept a dull, lifeless ski on piste, which will be much harder to ski well Toofy Grin ).


The effort to get them working makes you better skiier, and therefore a better person wink
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When considering this question it is important to bear in mind that one mans powder ski is anothers all mountain or piste cruiser and so your technique and terrain preferences make all the difference. For example I am happy to use Hellbents as an inbounds resort ski as long as its soft but many others would only bother using them for heli skiing or deep pow. Basically work out where you fit along the spectrum before making your decision.
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Englelberg, apparently Toofy Grin
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After all it is free Go on u know u want to!
arv, is this not the perfect opportunity to offer up those Pontoons again? wink
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under a new name, you can get decent powder in Yurp. Here's me in St Anton, on 95mm wide, 185cm long skis


Re the main discussion, the irony in trying to find a solutions to the all-round problem, is that the features that make a ski a great piste ski make it difficult in the off-piste, and a forgiving off-piste ski is going to be crap on piste. As you get more expert you are better equipped to handle a high performance ski on and off-piste, excpet that it's those people who are more likely to consider having different skis for different days. I've now found a great compromise with a 97mm wide GS ski (Volkl Mantra), but this will be way too stiff for someone just getting to grips with off-piste. Zags are a great off-piste ski, but crap on piste (although the Gold can do something there - at $$$$$ ). Never skied them, but Scott Neos get a good rep - probably best if you're <80kg though.
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Swirly, they are still there, apparently they cure all ills, interested? Toofy Grin

Mantras are good, just hard work when it gets deep Laughing
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GrahamN, looks a little heavy to me. Twisted Evil

Yes, while you can get decent powder in Europe, it's just much rarer to find bottomless "Champagne" powder. Anyway, as we all well know I have gone over to the dark side and possess skis with 93mil underfoot and 188cms in length. Spent the weekend on them and they were fine, even in bumps, but we both wish we'd taken our Nordicas.
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