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Avalanche gear in hand luggage?

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I'm deciding what to carry in my hand luggage as I've been right on the 20kg weight limit on my last couple of trips & my ski bag is pretty close to the weight limit too.

Has anyone had any trouble getting an avalanche shovel through airport security? Don't want some over zealous security guard claim that the handle's a weapon & confiscating it Shocked I've already ruled out my probe due to it's pointed end.

I also wonder what they'd make of a transceiver?
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spyderjon, you might be ok with the transceiver, but the shovel will definately be a no no, it will definately be regarded as a potential weapon
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I've never had a problem being a couple of kilos over the limit, it's only when you take the mick that they seem to charge. Or perhaps I've just been lucky?
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spyderjon,have always carried the sensitive things(camera's,video,radios etc)in hand luggage,no problems.As DGO rightly says,no chance with a shovel Shocked Best persuade Deb to leave some of the high heels behind.Never thought they were quite 'you' anyway wink
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I think this came up before on another similar topic.

You cannot even take Squash or Tennis Raquets into the cabin. I deffinitly know this from experience.

I wouldnt risk it. Just carry your passport & ticket everthing else in Check in . Its far more relaxing than hording carry-on bags.
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Of course the funny thing is that almost anything can be used as a dangerous weapon, even a magazine or newspaper when rolled up tightly becomes as effective as a wooden pole, which if you know what you are doing is a very lethal weapon ! Even something as inocuous as a tie is lethal in the right hands, terrorists usually recieve at least some training in these sort of things, so apart from banning the obvious weapons such as knives and guns there's not really any point in restricing anything else, I guess it's just a further example of the nanny state Confused
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D G Orf, too right, same goes for bare hands, feet and head.
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laundryman, yep, the next round of precautions will I expect require all passengers to be locked in their seats in a similar manner to that shown in movies like con-air !
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DG Orf,with the amount of seat space you get,I already feel 'locked in' wink
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D G Orf,
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I guess it's just a further example of the nanny state


My experience with the squash racquet was in Schiphol & München its pretty much international airport security policy now.
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This says it all but it also says individual airlines have extra precautions so best check with them

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D G Orf wrote:
I guess it's just a further example of the nanny state Confused


I don't think it's the nanny state so much as 'the authorities' trying to appear to be doing something about a problem which is insoluble, other than by stopping commercial passenger aviation.

It is noteworthy that despite disarming people of nail files and the like at 'security', airports pretend that the glass bottles and inflammable aerosols available in duty free (to give just two items) are innocuous.

Are any snowHeads in the airport or similar security business? How much difficulty would a group of well trained and well funded terrorists have in getting onto a 'plane with the materials necessary to take it over and/or cause it to crash? My guess is very little, but I know nothing about it.
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well funded terrorists have in getting onto a 'plane with the materials necessary to take it over and/or cause it to crash?


Shouldnt think they martyr themselves on a skiers flight to Geneva or Zurich not exactly the same impact (sorry about the Pun) as the Twin Towers stunt ! They'd want to up there current record of 3000 dead Sad
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I've taken transceivers in my hand luggage without problems.

I remember a couple of years ago at Geneva airport looking in a preflight shop..... which was selling Swiss army knives !
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snowball, they were still selling them last year when I went through Confused
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I believe that knives are now only available land side of security, but I wouldn't be surprised. When did the Swiss ever let anyone's well being get in the way of a few quid?
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richmond, oh that's good, sell them on the land side, when people only have their hand luggage, then they go through security which takes the knives off them, I wonder if they get sold back to the shops ?
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D G Orf, it's called recycling and is Switzerland's contribution to protecting the environment.
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richmond, that would not surprise me Laughing
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A few years ago I had a 'swiss knife/tool in a credit card' set taken from me at Vancouver airport, I had forgotten it was in my carry on bag. I was thus really flabergasted to visit Crete in the summer and find they were still being sold in duty free after security..... Puzzled
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If you have checked in and get to security and realise you still have your knife in your pocket (and you have a few minutes to spare), find a shop that sells padded envelopes and mail it to yourself. (How many other people have had to do this?)
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Discovered I'd left my letherman in my backpack when I got to security in Luton Airport. Very helpful, allowed me to exit departures go back to easyjet and put my backpack through as hold baggage.
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colinmcc, I've lost two of those Swiss Army credit-card type thingies like that! Some people never learn rolling eyes It's so daft though, because most people could inflict more damage with their bare hands than with the flimsy implements in those things! Hang on, I already said that. rolling eyes
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A metal ball point pen has always struck me as a perfect weapon. They are almost as sharp as a knife point and have added advantage of being able to conceal other "bits" inside. Who ever checks a ball point?
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On a recent trip, I checked into Birmingham airport with hand-luggage only. It wasn't until I was going through security that I remembered my penknife was in my bag. The security guys where very good about it: sent me off to the shop to buy an envelope and a few stamps, went back to security and they posted my penknife home. I though I'd lost it! Very Happy
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David@traxvax, you were lucky. That happened to me at Zurich and they just took it off me. Wouldn't let me do anything at all, just had to hand it over Crying or Very sad
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I like good security but I hate inconsistency. Took a small pair of nail clippers (the ones that look like wire cutters - but the 'blade' section is only ~ 1cm long) on a hand baggage only trip to Tokyo. On the last security check of a multi-sector trip in LHR T1, they took them off me. Held up the queue while he searched for them. Wouldn't tell me what he was looking for so I could help. If the guy just fancied a pair of clippers, he's now discovered the spring was busted anyway. wink
Some airlines still insist on plastic cutlery (they need to buy better quality steak - the crappy white plastic knives just won't hack it) and some have reverted to metal. A full-sized wine bottle grabbed off the trolly, or a broken glass is a handy weapon. But I suppose you can't make everything terrorist proof.
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snowball, Swiss air actually used to sell swiss army knifes on the plane! They don't now!

On an internal flight from Delhi to Kulu in the Himalaya loads of our group had pen knifes taken off them from hand luggage. They where all neatly labeld up with the pasengers names so they could be given back at the other end. As I sat in the little 14 seater I looked back and noticed the bundle of knifes just loose on a seat next to where the hostess sat, just waiting for anyone to grab them!!

Security just for show is rather amusing sometimes....
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