 Poster: A snowHead
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Am a level 5 Intermediate 5'9, 88kg, age 57 late starter (3rd season). Tried a few skis at the Ellis Brigham test at MK and fell for these (v. Xwing Tornado, Crossfire and Storm), as they turned / rode beautifully / felt so incredibly stable. Got some of this season's Recons ex demo @ £ good.
Reviews makes me wonder whether I did the right thing, as they appear good for the kind of conditions you get on the indoor slopes (soft snow, lumpy). How about on hard piste and ice? Has anyone tried these on the slopes at speed and ... what exactly does 'damp' mean?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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forwood, if you like'em that's the main thing. I've used them in vivo and they're fine. They're positioned as "all mountain", in other words piste and off-piste, so in that respect they won't be as sharp on hard snow and ice as say the Crossfires, but if your technique is reliable that shouldn't be a problem.
If anything they'll probably encourage you to explore off the side of the piste, which is a good thing.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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'Damp' means it doesn't ring or buzz with sharp shocks.
Skiing irregular hard-frozen lumps is thereby far easier, should one enjoy such a thing . 
'Damp'-ness is usually reckoned to take -away- from soft snow feel, but, as you didn't find that lacking why worry?
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Damp = boring 
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Hey, get Jon to tune those edges and wax the bases properly and you'll be whizzing down those pistes at top speed!
They're a great all round ski and there's a reason they get highly rated year after year. Thing is if you're a good all rounder the trade off is that they don't shine in any one area.
But toward the end of a good day on the mountain they'll still be easy to live with and be great fun till the very last run and the guys on the more single minded stuff'll be casting envious sideways glances.
Go and enjoy em...... after all, all that really matters is getting out there! 
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This is why buying an 'all mountain' ski based on 12 degree groomed snowdome gnar isn't ideal! That said, it is pretty hard to go too far wrong these days as long as you buy a ski appropriate for what and how you ski - I'm sure they will be fine.
Damp or lively is just the feel of a ski and comes down to preference. Lively skis feel very energetic and snappy to ski while damp feeling skis are very smooth - it's to do with the ski's construction. I've skied very damp feeling skis (dynastar mythics) and very lively skis (almost any fischer race skis) one isn't worse than the other.
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Mine are 2 years old and I love them, however they did encourage me to go off piste and I now find I want some "Fat Boys". Rented a pair of Salomon Lords for my off piste course last year but found they were good on piste as well so may look to go even fatter this year. But love the Recons still (in case they read this and get jealous!)
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Thanks all. Reassured now and if tonight ends up a big dump will try em down our road which narry gets the salt truck and almost a half mile green!  I'd have preferred to have rented to try on piste but going to £Courchevel in Jan, the only place I found that would do these would set me back about £150 for one week!
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forwood, Had mine for a few years now. Love 'em!
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How about on hard piste and ice? Has anyone tried these on the slopes at speed
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Many times....they are absolutely fine.
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i had recons and quite liked em... should be good for an intermediate at 88kg
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Assuming you are talking about K2 Apache Recons, then the only thing that has got me off them is the fact that I sold them! I bought quite a few skis in the meantime, but always gravitated back to the Recons. They are a very good ski, and if one reviewer found them "damp" then that is their opinion - with which you may (or may not!) agree.
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