 Poster: A snowHead
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yep as the topic says...anyone got any ideas?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I've tried - there's a thread on TGR with a whole load of templates saved but never had any joy opening the attachments which are in some odd format.
Chilli and Cobra are different templates. NTN will be different again
http://www.linken.com/
has some templates for the older front plate.
Also ask the customer where they want them mounted - the alpine line is not necessarily the answer nor is the old pin line.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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hmmm maybe if I follow this thread I will find out what a rottafella papper jig is.
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ccl, I was thinking just that! 
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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ccl, Hurtle, it's a papper jig for a rett trapp of course. 
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comprex, oh right, that explains everything.
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Hurtle, I submit to you that the original poster asserted himself as both familiar with context and adequately supplied of ingenuity, and implicitly requested respondents to be -more- so.
On that level, you are correct, there is absolutely nothing left unexplained; anyone qualified and ingenious and crafty enough to reliably use a paper mounting template for telemark bindings should have been set as of fatbob's post, using the principles contained therein: a) identify which Rottefella mounting pattern is called for and b) use a template supplied by a different maker if the patterns match.
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fatbob, thanks very much! the templates on that site are not to scale :-S so back to the drawing board! Yep I heard that telemarkers are fussy on there mount point, its going on a punisher as well so makes it even more complicated being a twin tip so i hear!
I've phoned every rottafella dealer and none of them have any paper jigs avalible and there is no uk supplier  always makes life complicated!
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dansmith, interestingly I emailed rottefella asking for a paper jig a couple of weeks ago- no reply. I found the TGR thread but was unable to open the attachments.
Mountain spirit and Breamar Mountain sports both sell Cobras though.
Those nice people at telemark pyrenees might help?
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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dansmith, have you tried contacting them direct ?
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| dansmith wrote: |
| ......the templates on that site are not to scale :-S so back to the drawing board...... |
Yes, but you simply enlarge/reduce the template on a photocopier until the actual measurement matches the check/scale measure on the template - exactly as stated in TGR's instructions for using the downloads.
Alternatively just measure off the actual bindings - I've mounted a few pairs of rotts that way - you can always do a dummy mount on an old ski or piece of wood first. It ain't rocket science.
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do a dummy mount on a piece of wood or old ski as spydy said use any jig with a centre hole as your starting point then make your own jig..simples
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You know it makes sense.
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D G Orf, as Ed says they don't seem to reply! in fairness I've only given them a day to reply so far so should wait for a bit! and cheers spyderjon, the old ski root is our tech's last resort as It takes so long and we have a work shop full of skis to be serviced!
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| dansmith wrote: |
fatbob, thanks very much! the templates on that site are not to scale :-S so back to the drawing board! Yep I heard that telemarkers are fussy on there mount point, its going on a punisher as well so makes it even more complicated being a twin tip so i hear!
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The instructions also say to use the Linken or G3 or Voile or Black Diamond templates depending on -which- Rottefella pattern you're trying to mount.
-sigh-
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Poster: A snowHead
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dansmith, there is or was a jig on bay - from the US
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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For tele mount position on flat tail skis it's pin line on the chord centre. On twins you then move forward to adjust for length of twin tip. For the length of the Punisher tail I'd go forward 3cm.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| spyderjon wrote: |
| For tele mount position on flat tail skis it's pin line on the chord centre. |
Only if that's how you ski them.
BoF over CRS seems to work better for me.
That's the problem with telemarking.
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| dansmith wrote: |
| fatbob, thanks very much! the templates on that site are not to scale |
Are you, err, positive about that...
PDF is supposed to be printer independent for scaling - but it could be that you've got "fit to page" or some other scaling option set on your printer...
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| FlyingStantoni wrote: |
| dansmith wrote: |
| fatbob, thanks very much! the templates on that site are not to scale |
Are you, err, positive about that...
PDF is supposed to be printer independent for scaling - but it could be that you've got "fit to page" or some other scaling option set on your printer... |
I'm pretty sure! there was no hole near any other hole...and yes i was using the semi right jig when I was checking!
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| FlyingStantoni wrote: |
| ......BoF over CRS seems to work better for me..... |
Alpine position eh. Best take a lesson 
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This is a bit like a round of Mornington Crescent.
comprex, trouble is, pomposity and humour aren't brilliant bedfellows.
For the record, I had no idea this was about telemarking but, like ccl, was happy for the thread to develop and enlighten me. Happy freeheeling, guys - I've seen some of you doing it and it's beautiful.
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the ideal mount for tele skis can only be divined after a pilgrimage to the sacred Mt Kailash- and then only if clothed head to foot in home kitted llama wool.
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dansmith, I see you are in Ringwood, there is a ski shop in Christchurch Ski Centre along Matchams Lane perhaps you could ask in there.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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| ed123 wrote: |
| the ideal mount for tele skis can only be divined after a pilgrimage to the sacred Mt Kailash- and then only if clothed head to foot in home kitted llama wool. |
A true telemarker would first buy a baby llama...
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| spyderjon wrote: |
| FlyingStantoni wrote: |
| ......BoF over CRS seems to work better for me..... |
Alpine position eh. Best take a lesson |
I am, of course, now going to have to check that assertion with my alpine skis!
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Boredsurfing, I work there! so a customer thought exactly the same thing! lol
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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dansmith, Do you mean the paper mounting template? If so, I don't know about Telemark bindings, but for other Rottafella stuff, the mounting instructions and paper template have always been in the box the bindings came in.
Failing that, there are some on the Rottafella website:
http://www.rottefella.no/english/start_telemark.htm
Two UK suppliers listed there too.
If I have completely missed the point, and that isn't what you want, and they don't reply to emails, maybe you could phone them? Emails from unknown senders sometimes fall victim to spam filters.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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nordicfan, thanks for the help bud! I've managed to locate a template for the correct binding which makes life a little easier through a friend of a friend! its not what you know its who ya know eh?
After this though....I'm never setting up a pair or realisable telemark bindings again! It may not be rocket science but its a good 4 cuppa's
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