 Poster: A snowHead
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Hi All,
Last year in Kaprun I saw a boarder fall and his mate behind him hit the same bit and went flying too with his board clattering the helmet of the other guy...At the point I thought, that's it, I'm wearing a helmet next year.....I've been quite surprised at the increase in helmet wearing by 'locals' especially over the last 2/3 years in Europe!! So here we are, I'm heading away to ADH 5-6 weeks and I still haven't bought one....Typically I would wear as little as possible as in zero hattage if I can avoid it and I'm concerned I'll wear it on the first day and ditch it due to lack of comfort, too much heat etc....Have you guys any thoughts or pointers for me?
I thank you....
Bendy
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Someone last season was showing everyone their funky 'smart' hat. This was apparently a flexible clothlike fabric beanie, but could withstand a falling ice axe, because upon contact the fabric would go "Oh oh. This looks like an undesirable impact. Time to harden up pronto" and simply bounce off, leaving the wearer under the assumption a small snail's parachute had failed to open.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Ben Dover, I suspect a LARGE helmet would be most suiting to yourself....
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riding horses is great summer exercise for winter skiing - everyone should try it!
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yes, I can imagine it would be. Terrific for the adductor muscles; must be a while since we've had a thread about those. 
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Yes alannm, we have a shop in Dublin called The Great Outdoors where an assistant seemed very eager to measure me for said helmet.......
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Has 'Helmet' reached sticky status yet?
I could suggest that the wearing of helmets is generally considered dangerous given ski collisions are so lethal no skier should be given the impression by a helmet that they are any less fragile.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| geoff10 wrote: |
| P.S. riding horses is great summer exercise for winter skiing - everyone should try it! |
When I used to teach skiing, you could spot the horse riders a mile off. They were indeed mostly fit  but made crap skiers; all stiff and they simply couldn't flow with it. Generally a "good" riding posture is a poor skiing posture. Western style riders are a bit better.
Anyway, helmets. If you don't hit anything immoveable like a tree, rock wall, fence post, pylon, piste basher or person etc then there isn't much need for one in everyday recreational skiing. In simple falling situations it is rare to hit your head (I've managed it only once in over 3 decades and there's nothing wrong with me vicar). Ah, ah ha ha ha, but what if someone hits you? Just don't put yourself in that situation (kids don't yet think the same way so I'm all in favour of protecting them as much as poss, until they can demonstrate the necessary awareness). You do just have to think about where you ski and where you stop. The media hysteria and hype (eg Natasha Richardson) has been totally over played and few mention the 47 Tequilla Slammers washed down with a carafe of red and a dozen large beers that people habitually pour inside their heads.
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Bode Swiller, so do you or dont you?
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Ford, I don't. (But, like a schmuck I bought one a few years ago - anyone want one?)
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Poster: A snowHead
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| crosbie wrote: |
| Has 'Helmet' reached sticky status yet? |
Haven't looked at the Susanna Reid thread for a while... 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Jumper, I'm sure they were amateurs. Not a pro like yourself.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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top 10 list of reasons not to wear a helmet...
1. I dont ski fast
2. my head will get hot
3. they look funny
4. they are heavy.
5. they cut you off from the mountain
6. they dont work anyway
7. they are expensive
8. They make ipod head phones tricky to put in
9. I never hit my head
And the top reason ...
My mates dont wear one.
Tux
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My top 10 list of reasons why I've bought a helmet for the first time in 20+ years of skiing...
1. I do ski fast
2. my head won't get hot because it has adjustable vents
3. the one I've bought doesn't look funny
4. they are NOT heavy, they're made of polystyrene.
5. I can't see how they cut you off from the mountain
6. they do work
7. they are expensive. I'll grant you that one
8. They make ipod head phones tricky to put in. You can buy ones which allow you to wear headphones, but I never do anyway because I think it's dangerous
9. I never hit my head. YET.
10. It's safer, simple as that.
OK, so I've never had a serious head injury in all my years of skiing but I have had people ski into me more than once - I was taken out from behind by a stupid snowboarder only a year ago.
To my way of thinking, it's better safe than sorry.
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| Picadilly wrote: |
| 1. I do ski fast |
Then your hypothetical collision will hypothetically kill you with or without a lid.
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| tuxpoo wrote: |
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5. they cut you off from the mountain
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8. They make ipod head phones tricky to put in
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The SCGB advocate wearing a helmet, therefore I'm out
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Guvnor, They are also involved in distributing scary stats so that their commercial partner can sell more helmets (or so it might appear to anyone as cynical as me)... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/travelnews/6461068/British-skiers-shun-helmets-despite-Natasha-Richardson-death.html
The survey, which was conducted by Ski Club of Great Britain and Ski Republic, a ski and snowboard equipment hire company, also found that of the 17,500 head injuries sustained last season, 7,700 injuries and 11 deaths could have been avoided if a helmet had been worn.
Sounds like carnage doesn't it. Why would anyone go skiing or boarding?
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The problem is, the only good reason for wearing a helmet is if you expect to need it (are a beginner or racer), but to be seen as a beginner is the last thing you want people to think who see you wearing it, so we have this endless defensiveness on the part of helmet wearers that there are jolly good reasons why EVERYONE should wear one at ALL times.
Last edited by You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net. on Tue 8-12-09 16:04; edited 1 time in total
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Bode Swiller, Does it include a stat as to how many of the deaths and injuries could have been avoided by not skiing off piste with an SCGB 'host'?
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| Bode Swiller wrote: |
| Picadilly wrote: |
| 1. I do ski fast |
Then your hypothetical collision will hypothetically kill you with or without a lid. |
Depends how hypothetically fast I'm skiing!
| crosbie wrote: |
| The problem is, the only good reason for wearing a helmet is if you expect to need it (are a beginner or racer), but to be seen as a beginner is the last thing you want people to think who see you wearing it, so we have this endless defensiveness on the part of helmet wearers that there are jolly good reasons why EVERYONE should wear one at ALL times. |
Pfff doesn't matter what people think - it'll be obvious whether you're a beginner or not.
I've made the decision to start wearing one. Each to their own I think.
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Picadilly, careful, you might end this thread prematurely.
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If ski helmets help reduce accidents can I get lower ski insurance for wearing one?
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You know it makes sense.
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Boredsurfing, If the research often touted on here is correct and statistically you are more likely to be a statistic wearing one, then one could argue that helmet wearers should pay more 
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Excuse me interrupting, but has anyone actually got something new to say about helmets? 
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Poster: A snowHead
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ccl, hope springs eternal.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I find wearing a helmet helps when low flying table tennis balls are in evidence..
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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ccl, yes, in an effort to prove what I'm saying, I'm going to have the majority of my skull removed. A fragile lattice work of skull material will be left to hold the brain in place. I will then ski non-stop for the remainder of the winter on the most crowded, tree-lined, icy pistes that I can find. I may also enjoy afternoons in the fun park chucking mystie flip 720s. If the weather is bad I'll do some bare knuckle boxing or full contact karate or amateur horse riding. Extreme I know but someone has to settle this argument.
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What have I started....I mentioned the word 'helmet' - crosbie kicks in with 'prematurely' and then tuxpoo has his hair all messed......... 
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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The problem is, the only good reason for wearing a helmet is if you expect to need it (are a beginner or racer), but to be seen as a beginner is the last thing you want people to think who see you wearing it, so we have this endless defensiveness on the part of helmet wearers that there are jolly good reasons why EVERYONE should wear one at ALL times.
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If wearing a helmet is enough to make people think I'm a beginner, I should stop sucking.
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Then your hypothetical collision will hypothetically kill you with or without a lid.
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There actually are collisions that don't kill people but do harm your head. I've been in one. Someone smashed on to me at a speed he clearly didn't control and in the tumble, a ski hit my head very hard. That was all the damage I had though, so yeah, with a helmet I could maybe have walked away without a scratch. Then again, there's no predicting what the ski would have done after it bounced on a helmet.
Anyway, this year is going to be my first one with a helmet, feel free to recommend me something better than a giro G10 btw 
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Oh and the advice I was given when looking to buy a helmet for racing Karts was simple: Buy the best helmet you can afford as you only get one head!
Felipe Massa is alive only because the FI helmets have developed to such an extent the same accident in even a good race helmet would have certainly killed him.
Admin...can we have some smileys with helmets pleeze???
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stoatsbrother, so, basically you're saying "Inconclusive either way", but otherwise until it becomes conclusive, everyone gets to chip in with their own cod-psychology with respect to whether helmet wearers take on an 'Ok to crash now it's non-fatal' mentality.
Pedestrians and 2CV drivers now find themselves on roads dominated by drivers of 4x4 SUVs in a hurry. The driver of the armoured personnel carrier has apparently improved their own safety at the considerable loss of everyone else's, but in feeling less vulnerable is likely to drive more recklessly and thus end up where they were before, but now in jeopardy of umpteen other SUV drivers, especially as a pedestrian.
It's also a bit like American football vs rugby. Does the padding and protective armour in the former improve all players' safety or counter-intuitively, increase the number and severity of collisions?
"Because everyone else is wearing one" may become one of the most valid reasons for wearing a helmet (and other body armour), simply to retain vulnerability-parity.
I think we need some smileys with helmets on so people can indicate which side of the holy schism they dress on. 
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The new smith's look really good, nice fit, stylish and well vented. There again if a ski hits your head that could be well "vented" too! 
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