 Poster: A snowHead
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would it be so tragic if I got myself a technical jacket that had no integral powder skirt? This was suggestion of shop staff at Ellis Brigham. TBH I don't do much if any off piste and don't do a lot of falling over. I spent a rather fruitless hour in Ellis Brigham trying to get a women's shell jacket that had all the criteria I want these being: Pass pocket, decent hood, powder skirt, taped seams, no fur, no glitter, no sequins, not white. The only one that looked anywhere near it was an arteryx one, but this brand only goes to L and I need XL/16.
So, do I try to get a ladies walking jacket instead sans skirt. Please don't recommend I try men's for as I have pointed out before, they are always way too long in the sleeves by the time you have factored lady hips into them.
Ta.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Skirt is nice, but one of the last things I would look for in a jacket if I stuck to the piste.
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MarjMJ, I have powder skirts on a couple of jackets and I scarcely ever remember to do them up. And I especially didn't remember to do them up on rare occasion when I fell in the powder (not because I'm so good, but because I ski mostly on piste). On those occasions it's the snow down the neck that I find particularly unwelcome. General comfort is far more important, plus a hood that isn't ridiculous. I like nice cosy cuffs round the wrists, though.
But I do fall down not infrequently on-piste. 
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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I've had both, if I really like a jacket that doesn't have a powder skirt it doesn't put me off buying it. It's a 'nice to have' IMO.
Having said that if I know I'm skiing powder I will try to wear a jacket that does have a skirt. I finally managed to get some bibbed trousers that weren't black this season, quite happy about that, I'll have the perfect seal this season!
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Powder skirts are not that important, unless you fall a lot offpiste. An adjustable draw cord at the bottom seam works quite well in my experience. One jacket I have has a skirt that unless it is done up stops the jacket from being comfortable, the rubber anti slip seems to drag it down.
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Having seen my better half spend quite a bit of time looking for a jacket with pretty much the same list of criteria she's just bought a North Face Fontaine.
http://www.ellis-brigham.com/cgi-bin/psProdDet.cgi?prod_code_in=306917
Looks like it meets all your critieria and the large is listed as being size 16. But maybe this is too softshell if you're looking for something more waterproof?
I have an Arc'teryx Fury softshell jacket which I bought in preference to the hard shell ones (I find softshell more comfy) and have had no issues with it not being waterproof enough for skiing. Wouldn't trust it for a day walking in the rain though!
Your "no fur, no glitter, no sequins, not white." did make me smile. Women's ski wear does seem to have gone a little fluffy of late!
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MarjMJ, I ski (and fall) off piste most of the time - and don't think I've ever had a jacket with a powder skirt. I don't think I've ever had a "ski jacket" either - I always have fairly technical hiking/climbing jackets (ski jackets are way too hot and bulky). Powder skirt is maybe a nice to have, must mostly irrelevant. Just make sure there is a good drawcord at the bottom seam.
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| MarjMJ, I have powder skirts on a couple of jackets and I scarcely ever remember to do them up. |
MarjMJ, I have powder skirts on a couple of jackets and it's very rare that they will actually go round me to do up 
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My powder skirt, even done up as tight as it goes, doesn't seem to keep the snow out very well when I fall on the piste - so I don't think it can make too much difference. That problem was there even before I lost weight, so I suspect I will end up with lots of snow up my jacket and down my trousers this year!
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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I had a jacket without skirt so used the drawcord round the bottom instead. The only issue was that it was a longish length jacket and so the drawcord kept sliding up over my bum to my waist, and with my trousers slowly migrating downwards throughout the day (bit too big for me), I did sometimes end up with snow down my bum, but not up my jacket.
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Great if you you take a major stack in the powder (and if you say otherwise you haven't taken a proper stack), but unnecessary onpiste.
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