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What DIN are your bindings set at?

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Haggis_Trap, not Markers? Wink
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Haggis_Trap wrote:
Well here is a handy marker / salomon DIN calculator for everyone...

http://www.dinsetting.com/

Though I reckon most pre-releases are perhaps caused by either

- badly adjusted toe or heel piece.
- snow & ice on the boot sole after hiking (eeeeeeek !!!)


Or walking from the bar Laughing
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I ski on DIN 7 and I'm 1m77 66kg BSL 317. At this height and weight I'm at max in both height and weight categories in the range so I go up in one category. I was on 5 and had a lost ski incident like the OP when I really shouldn't, losing a ski in more serious terrain can be pretty bad so I went up to skier type 3 (which I should have been anyway) and also realised I was top in both height and weight categories so went up in one of those which makes it 7. There is no reason you can't carry a screwdriver and drop it down a bit for piste skiing.

One the boot wear issue, if you have good bindings they usually compensate but it is still worth keeping an eye on.


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5'11, 82kg. Can't remember boot size (I don't keep them here) but I take a 10.5 shoe. 24.5 rings a bell, but not sure if it's the right bell. 9 at the front and 10 at the rear. Found I was releasing more often from the rear than the front, so went for a differential.

Generally, I'll only lose one if I get tired and start fighting with them (and my boots) in bumps. or I jam an edge in hard somewhere (usually bumps again).


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narc wrote:
.......One the boot wear issue, if you have good bindings they usually compensate but it is still worth keeping an eye one.

Puzzled
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spyderjon, My grammer cud do better Laughing
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Not sure if this is any science behind this but I was told years ago that a good rough guide is:

Everyday piste skiing - DIN = weight in Kg /10

For off piste or racing - DIN = weight in stones

Always worked fine for me over the years although I am prepared to stand corrected by the more clued up out there!
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greg66, 24.5 would be ubber ubber tight!

narc, I guess you mean self-adjusting toe heights? Doesn't wash for me, the AFD is very important.

SkiTigger, that's pretty much spot on actually. I still use it as a rough guide.
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parlor wrote:
greg66, 24.5 would be ubber ubber tight!



Heheheh. Yes. You might have a point there. 24.5 would put me in a size 5 shoe. I like 'em snug, but FFS...!

I won't try guessing again. I'll look next time I'm in W.
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90kg, 6'1", BSL 325mm, DIN 9-10.

I can't remember pre-releasing in the last few years
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88Kg, 5ft 7" BSL 315mm, DIN 6.5. Was at 6 till last year when I had a couple of unexpected releases.

I remember the days of turning the binding up 1/2 a turn at a time untill you couldnt kick your foot out (NO markings then), mind you they also had leashes instead of brakes
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DIN 4
Weight 55 kgs
Height 5'4
Ski length 1.55
Off piste, trees, burried fallen log = knee surgery.
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I'm intrigued by the OP, and why he had to ski the whole of the vallee blanche with only one ski. Did the other one fall down a crevasse? Puzzled
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dulcamara wrote:
demos, I have seen a few people turning their feet out of bindings around 10, this would worry me, does it happen with all bindings or the ones you are on at the moment?

Mate had a pair of LOOKs he could turn out of at 8/9, changed skis and they were fine.


It's really with rental bindings that I've had the most trouble. Some plastic Salomons I've tried didn't hold at all (they ended somewhere at DIN 9)and once loosing the skis on a steep when turning and barely recovering without major damage made me very scared of prerelease. I'm on 914s and they're solid.
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Scarpa wrote:
I'm still on a 7.5 but I'm 73kg and ski with a very light touch... I've fallen over so many times that I just tend to roll and keep the legs clear.


snowHead I thought I was the only loon out there who did that! I'm always impressed with myself when I can roll and keep both skis on.

I'm only on a 7ish but I never pre-release - famous last words obviously!

I'm going to read in to the "low" DIN, that I'm one of those people who is smooth with correct technique!
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I am rather heavy Embarassed (close to 100Kg). I can't remember my boot sole length, but my shoe size is a UK 9, I think Mondo 27.5.

I have always skied on 6.5 or 6.0, and have never had a true pre-release on those settings. (I have popped out once or twice when I hadn't actually clicked in properly, but that isn't the same thing).

I have never been an aggressive skier, but I rather doubt my technique is particularly smooth either.
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davelebus wrote:
I'm intrigued by the OP, and why he had to ski the whole of the vallee blanche with only one ski. Did the other one fall down a crevasse? Puzzled


I was skiing the Grand Enver du Plan, also known as the Col du Plan. We were on the 3rd pitch & the temperature had increased massively due to a large temperature gradient so we went from skiing light powder up top to isothermic wet heavy snow. i had a tip dive under a piece of crust & couldn't recover ended up taking a fall. Ski disappeared under the snow. So i started digging for it. After about 20 minutes there was still no sign of my ski & then someone cut a wetslide nearly directly above me. Which ran down within about 20m of me, i'd have been in a lot of trouble had i been in it's path. At this point i decided that the only sensible thing to do was get out of their & quick. Which necessitated unfortunately skiing to the rest of the route to the Requin on one ski & skiing out the rest of the vallee blanche on one ski.

For reference sake i was just below where it says "Glacier do Envers du Plan" in the picture below.

So to paraphrase it was an extremely unpleasant experience in an extremely unpleasant place. After that i vowed never to be in that situation, or worse, again. Sometimes there are worse things than the possibility of blowing a knee. Which incidentally usually happen in slower speed crashes typical of those had by beginners & intermediates.

As to the smartalick above who said why don't i just weld my boots to my skis. Well that wouldn't be very practical when going for beers at lunch or apres, would it now?
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frank4short, bvgger! Not good, not good at all. Still unconvinced requiring a heli-evac with (a) blown knee(s) in that situation would be an improvement...but welll done you for getting down on your own.
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non release, so no stupid numbers here to worry about.
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Oops, not good! Bet you wear powder trails now, along with clamping in hard.
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As to the smartalick above who said why don't i just weld my boots to my skis....


Welding ?
Real super heroes just remove the springs from their salomon bindings wink

Ski on a glacier in one ski = bad guy. Sounds epic.
Though not as dangerous as taking a snowboard off to hike out!
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5 foot 9, 66kg (I think...), DIN 9, one up from the charts, but I ski mainly offpiste and hate losing skis, especially when you're a long way from lifts/pistes.
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clarky999, That is more than one up from the charts, unless you have really titchy feet
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I can't remember my boot size, but I don't think my feet are that small... size 8 I think, maybe 9? Could have the weight wrong as well lol, it's been awhile.
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clarky999, Well I am the same height as you, but heavier (95Kg+), size 9 shoes - boot sole length 314mm.

As a type 2 skier, the calculator above says my DIN setting should be 6 aged from 10 up to 49, or 5 if 50 or older (I will be 51 in the middle of my next trip).

Even if I put myself down as a 3+ skier, it only goes to 7 for age 50+, or 8.5 otherwise.

If I plug in your weight, it would only be 7 even for a type 3+ skier at a younger age. And "type 3+" already means you are "up from the charts"
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As a 65kg red run skier I bought new boots today in a Mondo 26.5 and the guy who adjusted my bindings lowered the DIN to 5.5
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At type 3+ at my age (20) that chart has me at 7 (if I put 66kg as the top limit) or 8.5 (if I go to the weight band above). I can't remember my exact weight 66kg rings a bell, and it's defo around there That was setting my sole length the same as yours, I can't be bothered going to work mine out lol)... I've had bindings fitted to skis at two different shops, both of their charts have said 8. It's probably more likely I have my weight wrong than my DIN wrong. Anyways, they still release when I've needed them too, but not prereleased for a while, so all seems good to me.
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