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Three months to go (and counting!!!) - any fitness training programmes that anyone can recommend for a 45year old mum of average fitness (but not up to a week's worth of skiing just yet!!!). I do a bit of cycling but that's about it - any specific targets would be great to motivate me!
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Do a bit more cycling.
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have a look at this recent thread
http://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?t=56919

lots of good ideas there - one specific target would be to aim to do a minute on each leg of the "bridge" exercise illustrated.

Otherwise, the usual - squats and lunges, plus a bit of cardio. Cycling is great but the weather isn't!
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to go with a bit more cycling, do some strength/agility circuits 2-3 x per week. Include exercises for your core (eg, planks, side planks, glute bridges) and your legs (1 leg dips/squats, lunges etc), and gradually progress the exercises to more dynamic ones. A good target is to build to doing lateral jumps (jumping side to side in a ski posture), while keeping leg symmetry and a nice strong core, and doing multiple sets of these.
Then, replace a cycling session every week or two with an hour or so of walking up and down hills, with a rucsac on, if you have anything suitable where you live. Uphill is great for cardio fitness, downhill great for ski specific leg strength, especially if you zig zag a bit. If you don't have any hills, just walk up and down a few flights of stairs for 20-30 mins, for a similar effect.
And work your balance constantly - stand on 1 leg to brush your teeth and in the shower, see how long you can stand with your eyes shut, etc.

Theres loads of stuff on the net you can find. heres a few links to get you started: http://www.tdcski.com/about_tdc/other_stuff/fitnessCore.shtml, http://www.skiclub.co.uk/skiclub/guides/page.aspx?intGuideID=12 (skicliub members only), http://www.warrensmith-skiacademy.com/ski-biomechanics-physiology/strength-conditioning.htm
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Go Skiing every weekend , its great excercise.. and its helpful for your skiing.
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Buy a new pair of running shoes and a flourescent yellow jacket, you'll need it with these dark nights. Just go out for a run, start by running as far as you can without stopping, then walk for then same distance then run/walk back. Just keep doing this till you can run non-stop for 20 minutes covering about 2 miles on the way out, then you'll be doing just fine running 4 miles a few times a week.

That's about as fit as you need and you'll be able to ski down most pistes without stopping for breath.

Weightlifting only helps if you need to carry your ski's between lifts. Evil or Very Mad
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Brookside, follow Gra's advice. That covers stamina, strength and balance.
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work your balance constantly

Agreed... Get hold of a wobble board. (Your kids will love playing on it too!)
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Burnsy wrote:
Buy a new pair of running shoes and a flourescent yellow jacket, you'll need it with these dark nights. Just go out for a run, start by running as far as you can without stopping, then walk for then same distance then run/walk back. Just keep doing this till you can run non-stop for 20 minutes covering about 2 miles on the way out, then you'll be doing just fine running 4 miles a few times a week.

That's about as fit as you need and you'll be able to ski down most pistes without stopping for breath.

Weightlifting only helps if you need to carry your ski's between lifts. Evil or Very Mad


Distance running only helps improve your heart and lung capacity, unless you ski with straight legs. Sprinting is better (Usian Bolts legs v Paula Radcliffe's?) but go cycling and climb lots of stairs to get slope fit.
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A wobble board has helped me a lot. Take care not to do too much repetition of any one specific motion - build up to things. I made the mistake of being overenthusiastic about getting fit and ended up worse off as I got bursitis rolling eyes
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bar shaker wrote:
Distance running only helps improve your heart and lung capacity

Thus improving stamina.
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Generally the better your balance the less effort skiing will be, good balance and core strength probably reduce the chance of injury too

http://exercise.about.com/cs/exercisegear/a/bosu.htm
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So is this the right kind of balance board?
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DaddyLouLou, looks like it - mine was cheaper than that, from Decathlon.
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Brookside, some of the posters above haven't read the "busy mum" part of your post. Leave the kids to sort themselves out, get a rucksack and get out in them hills!! Laughing
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Weightlifting only helps if you need to carry your ski's between lifts.

...and if you want to reduce injury risk, and improve your skiing performance, your core stability, balance and your agility.

Obviously, going to the gym and doing leg extensions on a machine won't help all these areas above, but doing functional strength training, ie training the movement patterns used in skiing with bodyweight or light dumbells, can massively help all the above. So, lunges, 1 -leg squats, various jumps such as lateral jumps, plus dynamic core work, can be considered as both functional and strength exercises. Once you've got a good base fitness from these, then weight training is an excellent progression, especially exercises like squats, romanian deadlifts & cleans
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can you walk to/from school every day (assuming your dropping the kids off....)
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bar shaker wrote:
Distance running only helps improve your heart and lung capacity

Ahh, the propogation of the myth that implies cardio exercise doesn't actually build useful muscle for snowsports Smile Aside from weight bearing endurance exercise building muscles that keep doing things right when others are getting tired, it also helps to stop things like leg bones and knee ligaments from snapping when things go wrong. I'll accept however that weight lifting probably helps you to look the part if you are auditioning as an extra in a Frankie goes to Hollywood snowsports fantasy video. Toofy Grin

Burnsy wrote:
Weightlifting only helps if you need to carry your ski's between lifts. Evil or Very Mad

I doubt that even. I strap my skis, poles and mountain daypack to my back and happily hike up 1,500 feet or so of vertical to reach the skinning snowline and all while wearing ski boots. I reckon that carrying an extra 10kg of muscle on my arms and shoulders would actually slow me down.
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I had a go on a couple of balance boards in the gym yesterday. One was a big BOSU, the other a little plastic one, much smaller diameter, with bobbles on one side and smooth on the other. More like this http://www.amazon.co.uk/Home4physio-35cm-Wobble-Cushion-Pump/dp/B000W0AXFK/ref=sr_1_19?ie=UTF8&s=sports&qid=1259058680&sr=8-19&tag=amz07b-21
I'd be interested in any advice on the pros and cons of different varieties. What about the ones with a plank that rolls back and forth on a roller underneath? We used to have something like that as kids.
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Part of my fitness program involves walking up hills backwards pulling my son in a buggy - I've had some very funny looks!! Laughing
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Brookside, Whatever cardio you like doing the best do lots of it. If its cycling then great.
Get a training buddy to motivate you.

pam w, Do theses balance boards actually work?
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moffatross wrote:
bar shaker wrote:
Distance running only helps improve your heart and lung capacity

Ahh, the propogation of the myth that implies cardio exercise doesn't actually build useful muscle for snowsports Smile Aside from weight bearing endurance exercise building muscles that keep doing things right when others are getting tired, it also helps to stop things like leg bones and knee ligaments from snapping when things go wrong. I'll accept however that weight lifting probably helps you to look the part if you are auditioning as an extra in a Frankie goes to Hollywood snowsports fantasy video. Toofy Grin


Do these look like the legs of a world champion skier?

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Burnsy wrote:
Weightlifting only helps if you need to carry your ski's between lifts. Evil or Very Mad


Like this weakling



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Go to a circuit training class at your local leisure centre - Generally include a good range of exercies for overall fitness. Good overall fitness should help
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Do theses balance boards actually work?

ph, I have no doubt that they improve your balance - I'm less convinced that for someone like me, not aiming for top level performance (to put it mildly) they are more effective than standing on one leg with your eyes closed!

There's a fantastic picture somewhere on snowheads of Chemmy Alcott balancing on top of a big exercise ball. Exceptionally impressive! I don't aspire to that, though Hurtle does the ironing on a wobble board, it seems. wink
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pam w, here you go:
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hyweljenkins, that's good, but it's a different one!
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I've just started doing spinning classes. With an instructor shouting encouragement at you it keeps you working at a good rate where I know I would have packed up long before.
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Since the OP stated she was
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a 45year old mum of average fitness

and hasn't returned, maybe all the things some people do to train have scared her off? I would suggest (as a 49 year old dad/grandad, who has a 42 year mum/granny as a wife) that what the OP really needs is not ski specific, balance specific, or strength specific, but just to get fitter! Going running will do it, circuit training would be better, spinning would do it - if you are at a low or moderate level of fitness it does not need to be complicated Smile These will also have the side effect of making her look better, and feel better Razz
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hyweljenkins, Chemmy has looked better than in your pic! To say the least. It's more Chavvy Alcott then Chemmy. Toofy Grin
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Brookside, Along with cycling, walking etc. I use home workout DVD's - my current preference is Davina McCall's Superbody Workout - choice of 2 x 40 minute workouts with the added bonus of an extra 10 minutes of abdominal, legs and upper body exercises. Even for us busy Mums, we can find 40-50 minutes at some point in the day. I have found these DVD's both enjoyable and beneficial. Smile
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hyweljenkins, pregnant? or does she look fat in that t-shirt?
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How to build Lindsay Vonn - US World Cup ski champion:


http://youtube.com/v/RkIagSiJv7o
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RobinS, exactly the point I was making above, when somebody suggested she should put on a rucksack and go hill walking. It's far easier for us 62 year old grannies to do that than it is for a mother with young children.
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RobinS wrote:
Since the OP stated she was
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a 45year old mum of average fitness

and hasn't returned, maybe all the things some people do to train have scared her off? I would suggest (as a 49 year old dad/grandad, who has a 42 year mum/granny as a wife) that what the OP really needs is not ski specific, balance specific, or strength specific, but just to get fitter! Going running will do it, circuit training would be better, spinning would do it - if you are at a low or moderate level of fitness it does not need to be complicated Smile These will also have the side effect of making her look better, and feel better Razz


Age has nothing to do with it.

I'm 46 and do approx 10 hours of spin classes (or my own spin sessions) each week, plus other core exercises and I go out on my mountain bike at weekends. My wife is 44 does 6 hours of spinning, 3 hours of kettle bells and 2 hours Nike Training/body pump a week. Two weeks ago she upgraded her road bike to a carbon fibre one, as she wants to get into some serious road racing this summer. We are both much fitter than those friends of ours who are lucky enough to still be in their twenties.

Maybe our posts just haven't inspired the OP. Maybe she is still at the gym or out on her bike.
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bar shaker, I've seen women in Spin classes not even break a sweat after 45 minutes, so the number of hours is irrelevant.
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hyweljenkins, We have those in our classes too. Their make up remains perfect throughout the class Laughing Laughing Laughing

Weigh yourself before and after. If you haven't sweated a net kilo, you haven't worked hard enough!!
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bar shaker, but how many small kids do you look after? My daughter in law is struggling to fit in some exercise. She could push the pram up her local hill (possibly backwards) and does, when she can, but that has to be when she isn't also looking after the 3 year old (you try getting a 3 year old to go anywere in a straight line...). So that's two mornings a week, when he is in pre-school. Which is also her main opportunity to try to get some of the jobs like mopping the floor done - much more difficult when he's there with his train sets etc set out in the playroom. My son gets home around 7 pm - maximum exhaustion time of day for a mother of young kids. Usually in time to help with bath time, read stories to one child (whilst she breastfeeds the baby and listens to the 6 year old practice her spellings). After that, when the kids are asleep, and she's exhausted (breastfeeding and still sometimes having to get up in the night) her motivation to go out to some kind of exercise class, a minimum of 7 miles away, especially on a dark night, is pretty low.

It can be done, but it's not easy and takes both iron will and enormous powers of organisation.
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hyweljenkins, We have those in our classes too. Their make up remains perfect throughout the class Laughing Laughing Laughing


Is he called Alex (Reid)?

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00061/reid280_61773a.jpg
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