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Head Ski Deal....Any Good?

 Poster: A snowHead
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Hello To All Very Happy

I' new here, having had a trawl through some of the threads it seems to be a great font of knowledge!

I have been snowboarding for a few years and now fancy taking on the challenge of skiing, I went skiing
once twenty years ago Shocked and have had a couple of lessons at Milton Keynes and it all came back to
me quite quickly.

To my question; A local retailer is doing the following offer:Head Peak 71 Skis, Head 8.5 Boots, Poles and a bag
for £300.00. To me that seems pretty good value, I know the gear is all very much at the lower end of the
scale, but i'm figuring that if I get 2 weeks use out of the gear i'm not going to be out of pocket compared with renting?

I have tried the boots on and they seem fine, the store does a proper fitting service which I would obviously
use.

I know buying is an absolute mine field, but do you think I could get as good deal if I shop around? I've done
a bit of web research and else where the ski's are £250 on their own.

It's my choice I know, but I know bog all about ski's and you guys may well turn round and say those ski's
are well known for being tottaly sh*te! I just don't know.

Thanks in advance.

Pete

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If you're a newbie and you accept that the above equipment has limitations it's an absolutely smashing deal. Smile Boot-fitting is indeed a minefield but if you're only planning to wear them for 2 weeks and you don't know what you're doing it'sl not going to affect your performance tremendously - however, if you're a porker - go for a half size smaller than you tried on because they'll pack out really quickly.
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petesnap, Welcome to snowHead 's. Head are good skis, if you look at the top end they are seriously challenging Atomic now for their long held crown. Seems a cracking deal albeit I think £300 for two weeks rental is a bit high as estimates go, bearing in mind you have to add on ski carriage charges to the cost of the skis.

Also, as Alexandra says, and given that as a boarder you are likely to progress a lot quicker than a complete newbie, you might progress beyond the level of these skis very quickly.

I would just buy a good pair of boots and rent skis for now until you find your level on skis. As you may be aware, if they know you are in the market to buy, most ski shops will let you rent/demo various skis and then refund the rentals if you buy. This will let you try different makes and types and if you're late enough in the season you could get a real bargain as well Very Happy snowHead
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the store does a proper fitting service


Maybe it does, but this offer is not a case of that as your boot is already chosen without seeing your feet.
Different boots are different shapes and suit different feet.
Proper boot fitting matches the right boot with your foot. A good boot fitter will only select 2 or 3 boots for you out of all the brands.
The boots feeling fine may not be a good thing. If they dont feel really snug they will be too big before too long (money wasted).

If it was my money I would use it to get the right boot for me. Worry about the skis at a later date.
Ski a few models and see if you like them. They cost as much to carry on a plane as they do to hire.
Dont buy skis to save money it dosent work buy em cause they are the ski you want to ski.
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I often look at these deals - which sound good on paper - there was one in the S&R catalogue, but its the boots side of things that always bothers me for folks that are tempted to buy without too much knowledge. Surely such people could end up with kit that is little more appropriate for them than hire gear?
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As always Snow and Rock would offer a ski suitability and boot comfort guarantee on this package.

Considering the current exchange rate the UK is the cheapest place in Europe to purchase and of course raises the price of rental in the resorts.
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Hi Folks, Thanks for your comments, I'm going to go and give the boots a try, i've done a bit of research on the fit of ski boots, and from what I can gather, the fit should be the same as with snowboard boots, ie a good close fit, and definately not too big (i've made that costly and uncomfortable mistake in the past with board boots)!!
I'm certainly not one to come onto a forum and ask advice then go along blindly and buy the boots (in this case), but on the basis I have fairly normal/average feet (i've been told this when buying specialist footware such as running shoes/snowboard boots) there might be a good chance the Head boots may well prove to be a good fitting, good value first time boot, after all someone must but that model or they wouldn't make them!? I will certainly report back (no dought once i've spent 3 times what I plan to)!

Cheers Again,


Pete Very Happy
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petesnap,

The right boot for an average shaped foot is an average shaped boot.
Do at least ask the boot fitter there is that boot a good match for your foot and dont buy em to big.

There are loads of threads about boot fitting and plenty of sad stories on here if you search.

I smell a troll but if I'm wrong may the force be with you youre gonna need it.
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I don't think he's trolling - I do think though that it's a total overkill to tell him to go to a bootfitter. He's a newbie skiier who's going to spend 2 weeks in these boots. Do you normally send complete newbies off to a bootfitter rather than the rental hall?

He'll have more fun with new boots of his own than a pair of minging boots from a rental outlet flung at him by a surly french teen!
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RPF wrote:
petesnap,

The right boot for an average shaped foot is an average shaped boot.
Do at least ask the boot fitter there is that boot a good match for your foot and dont buy em to big.

There are loads of threads about boot fitting and plenty of sad stories on here if you search.

I smell a troll but if I'm wrong may the force be with you youre gonna need it.


I'm gonna sound a knob here but what's a troll? Puzzled
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I've just looked up "trolling"

In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response[1] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[2]

And if this is what your suggestion is RPF I don't know how you might of drawn this conclusion I was just asking for some honest advice rolling eyes
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From my expearience i rented for my first few weeks, both boots and skis. Yes that package does seem like a good deal. But as you have prior experience faffing around on a mountain. Then you'll learn quickly, thus maybe improving to a better standard than the boots/skis are suited for. And after 3 weeks skiing you might think 'poo-poo i need new boots and skis, so all i can now use from this package is the bloody poles' In my opinion i would wait. I have only skied for 4 weeks. And i bought boots (properly fitted) after 3 and it made a world of difference to comfort and skiing ability. So i would say you may be better off renting boots, skis and poles just for the 1st week, maybe 2. Then spend that £300 on a nice set of boots that will last you 8 years instead of 3 weeks.






Then buy loads of skis.... wink
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Thanks Twitchy,

I think that's good advice, when I started boarding I rushed into buying "the wrong gear" particularly bad fitting boots so maybe I should hold off or just maybe stop being a tight a*se and up my budget.

Cheers,

Pete
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You know it makes sense.
petesnap,
Cool if your looking for advise. The Troll thing, boot threads can get alot of response here and people will give good responses, some of the sugestions about ski boot fitting and average feet and not normally the kind to seek advise and then go and do something else just sounded a bit like were looking for a response.
I'm no bootfitter but I've bought the wrong boots twice too so am deadly serious about dont go to a shop with any particular brand or model in mind. Some of what I thought would be right for me I was told by a good bootfitter were way off the mark. I got it right when I went to a good boot fitter. My skiing improved no end like Twitchy87 said.

A good bootfitter wont try to make the wrong boot right. They get you into the best boot for you then alter if necessary. The less they have to modify the better.

Dont buy too big.

This thread may be useful http://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?t=20110&highlight=buying+boots
The opening post is currently been re written but there is a lot of advise in the rest of it.
CEM and Smallzookeeper are both bootfitters. You'll find a lot of our bootfitting experiences there too.
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Sounds like a very good deal. If you're sure you'll continue skiing and won't feel like giving up after a few days on the slopes then it could certainly be worth it. If the boot fits, wear it! However if it really doesn't then don't be forced into buying the setup just because it's a good deal - in that instance see if the shop could substitute another boot into the package.
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Thanks for all your great advice, I'm going to go along try a good selection of boots and not be swayed by price, if the cheap boots feel good i'll be "quids in", but if there is any suggestion that they are not quite right i'll dig a little deeper and go for some dearer boots. As I said before I've made the costly mistake of buying the wrong snowboard boots in the past and certainly don't want to go down that same avenue with ski boots.


Cheers,


Pete Very Happy
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petesnap, sounds wise. Good luck!
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