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move to germany. shed loads of public holidays and the day off does not move to the nearest monday like in UK, but stays on the correct day. If that day is a Tuesday/Thursday then the Monday/Friday is often given as a bonus holiday (but is often taken from the extra bonus days of AL).
May/June usually gives 5-6 days off within about 5 weeks (ie 1st May and 2x 4-day weekends).
edit: mine worked out as 28 days AL + 2 enforce holidays + 9 public Holidays this yr
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Kel, I took it to mean 30 days plus 8 statutory bank holidays, but in fairness I can't see how any company could offer this and remain profitable, so you're probably right, it's more like to be 30 days including bank holidays or days in lieu of bank holidays. Paid holiday must be a big issue for any employer especially if like mine they have to employ freelance staff to cover for those on paid leave.

Anyway, drifting away from the point slightly. I'm glad I'm not the only one who makes such sacrifices for her annual ski fix. Very Happy
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I get 25 days plus Bank Holidays (as I work a Monday I do lose a couple of them), but every Saturday I work is half a days extra leave. I will have worked about 20 this year.
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queen bodecia, this is not to flame the thread but I'm a civil servant and have 30 days regular leave plus bank holidays, as do many. Some Departments have 30 as the norm, others have 25 with increases to 30 with long service. I suppose it depends on the nature of the work, but I've never known anyone be brought in to provide holiday cover, we absorb the essentials in the team but see previous comment about having to work extra hours to get the time off anyway. I have never worked for a commercial company with fewer than 20 days paid leave and even then that was in the '70s/'80s. For most of my working life (33 years) life I have enjoyed 25 or more days plus bank hols.
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Summer Hoildays, well of course Chile, Argentina, New Zealand Very Happy
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holidayloverxx, lucky you then! Although it does sound strange that you don't need cover if someone is on holiday. If someone's workload can be absorbed by other team members that would imply an over-staffing situation to me and in the commercial sector, a sniff of redundancies would be in the air.

There have been odd occasions in my line of work when freelance cover at short notice (i.e. in cases of sickness) has not been possible and other staff have had to work longer hours to cover the workload. That's usually been the case when I have been burning the midnight oil at work. Not much fun! But with holiday leave at least it is planned well in advance (at least three months) and we can ensure we have adequate freelance cover.
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Usually get 29 days plus 7 bank holidays, got an xtra 13 unpaid this year, sadly can't use them all for skiing as wife can't get more than a fortnight off during season and best I can negotiate with her is a four night boys trip in Jan.
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queen bodecia, all your posts about your employer seem to suggest they suck!
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queen bodecia, all your posts about your employer seem to suggest they suck!


I thought serfdom had been abolished...........................

John.
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arv, not at all! I love my job and the terms and conditions of employment are better with my current employers than is the norm within the industry I work. This is the first job where I have had any paid sick leave and a company pension.

The sort of benefits enjoyed by the public sector are unheard of in the creative industry. In fact, the industry as a whole is slowly moving towards not employing any full-time staff and employing freelancers only. Traditionally it's been a very hire 'em and fire 'em business, i.e. staff up when winning a new client and redundancies when losing client(s). Which explains the five redundancies during my career to date. It's an industry where time is money and now clients are demanding more work for less money and faster turnround times it is getting increasingly difficult for design agencies to stay in business. Therefore paying staff for not working (i.e. sick and holiday pay) is just destroying increasingly thin profit margins.

However, I love what I do, I don't mind working 50+ hour weeks and I'm reasonably well paid. The nature of my employment may seem harsh to people in the public sector and traditional industry sectors, but it's the way the creative industry operates.
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holidayloverxx, just turning really nice and warm here in South Africa, enjoy! Should count as a summer holiday.
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We had an overseas summer holiday this year......................but it was skiing in LDA. I'm not a huge fan of super hot weather and even less of a fan of sitting on a beach all day so summer tends to be camping in Dorset, which we also love'. In the bad old days BS (before skiing) quite enjoyed the odd budget cruise and had a cracking 3 weeks in New Zealand but cannot imagine for a second diverting skiing funds to a couple of weeks in Majorca or similar. (and I quite like Majorca)
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lizski, lovely Very Happy
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queen bodecia wrote:
holidayloverxx, lucky you then! Although it does sound strange that you don't need cover if someone is on holiday. If someone's workload can be absorbed by other team members that would imply an over-staffing situation to me and in the commercial sector, a sniff of redundancies would be in the air.


Yes lucky me.

You have selectively read my post I think. I said that the essentials could be absorbed, I also said I worked extra hours in advance of holidays to be able to take time off. What really happens is that person A (me) works an extra (unpaid) 30 hours the week before (4 days extra), takes 5 days off the following week. Person B deals with what can't wait while I'm away, working (unpaid) extra hours if necessary. When person B is off I reciprocate. There is no overstaffing in my unit. The workload is what it is, the staffing actually bears no relation to the volume or complexity of the work - we have to make do with the staffing budget we get.
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queen bodecia, I don't work in the public sector, and I definitely need to be replaced when I am on holiday , but 25 days plus bank holidays is the minimum holidays for my profession. Many companies also allow their staff to 'buy' extra holiday in exchange for a salary reduction. However, support staff holidays are usuallly absorbed into the workload, apart from an odd occasion where we will ask part-time staff to work extra.
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queen bodecia, good for you, if you love your job then having less holiday shouldn't be a bind, I hope. I reasonably enjoy my job, but the 30 days leave (plus UK bank hols) helps - a benefit of working for a German company; in fact by Bavarian standards we get relatively few public holidays.

I think after nearly seven years I'm yet to use a full entitlement within a year. I started this year with 8 days carried over, so 46 days including bank hols. Shocked Taking the time off is worrying enough (business always slows down in my absence - kind of reassuring when you work in sales) but there's no way I could actually afford to go away that much. Shame, as it would be nice to take off Jan and March to go skiing. Very Happy
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I'm now almost as fixated with yachting as skiing, which - with one exception - we've done in warm climes.

Also visit family and friends in the States about one year in three, which is mainly combined with skiing.
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I haven't had a summer holiday since 2002 and if I was going to take holiday in the summer, I would go to south america and go skiing.

Most typical summer holidays = boring
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Much as I love skiing, I wouldn't give up all other travel just to get more time in the snow. I don't do lying on beaches, though - hate that sort of holiday.
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I wouldn't give up my summer holiday to go skiing. I am a self confessed holiday junkie though, I love going away.

We usually have 1 european city break, a couple of weekends camping and this year we went to Thailand and Dubai and will be going to Canada this December.

I get 25 days AL plus bank holidays - most of them are taken out of the country!
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summer in the mountains is just as good in my book. just got back from a week in the Sierra Nevada biking,

dusty singletrack is up there with a pow day... Cool
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summer hols are in the apartment in the Alps. When we decided to buy it we realized that would be the deal. It suits us anyway.
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pam w, suits me fine too.
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pam w, Helen Beaumont, with both of you there. Not exactly a hardship.
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I couldn't give up my dose of sun in the summer. For us it's the other way round, it's the skiing that goes if money is tight. Have usually managed to do both by foregoing sky telly, smoking, drinking, new car etc! Sound a bit boring don't I!

Having said that, the 2 weeks in the sun is far cheaper than the skiing. This year we did Morzine in Feb and 3 weeks in South Africa in April. South Africa only came in at £500 each for flights with BA as we stayed with a friend. God knows what the skiing cost all in!
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Summer in the alps for us! Though this year we did the Transrockies bike race as our summer holiday - racing 550km off-road with 15,000m total ascent over seven days.
http://www.transrockies.com/

and then recovered first by staying with friends in San Francisco and then camping in Yosemite which was wonderful.

When the chalet's rented we often go to Chamonix anyway and camp, it's a very cheap holiday.
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I'll happily forego my summer holiday for another week in the sun

But the summer holidays are often pretty cheap
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Personally at the moment I'm able to go skiing for 2/3 weeks of this coming season and hoping to get a summer holiday mountain biking in the alps. I'm able to afford this as I'm working and paying very little bills as I'm living with my parents.

But I've always got playing cricket to get me through the summer.
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What's a summer holiday???

Summer is time to work.
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Winter is for skiing.
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The two things I do every years is at least one weeks skiing and the British GP ( may not sound like a holiday but it costs just as much with the staying over!) If I can afford another cheeky week skiing then I will. Summer holidays tend to be camping or city breaks on the cheap with friends, haven't been had a beach holiday since 2006 and thats because the (now ex) girlfriend would not stop whining!

I get 25 days + 8 bank holidays + 2 weeks off at xmas/new year (I know 2 of those are bank holidays)
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I haven't been on a summer holiday this year, partly due to having to knuckle down and finish my PhD thesis and associated lack of funds (although it was worth it and I am now Dr Helen Very Happy - although not officially as not graduated yet) I've just started a new job in the public sector with quite a generous holiday allowance, and the peak working period is over the summer so hopefully they will be happy with me taking more time off in the winter! snowHead

However my partner is a junior(ish) doctor and has very little say over when his hols are - he gets a week off here and a week off there depending on the rotas. He's going cycling in Mallorca next week without me as he had no choice about his rota'd time off, and he really needs the break (from A&E at the moment). That's another reason why no summer hols - whenever he was free I had to be somewhere and vice versa. When we do go away together in summer it's usually camping in the UK. We are also lucky enough to have access to a family property in the lake district, which is close enough to go for plenty of weekends, and an apartment in La Plagne. Not sure when we are going there this year yet as OH changes rotations in December so won't get new shift info until then.

The bottom line is that considering how difficult it's been recently to get coinciding time off, we would definitely prioritise at least one ski holiday above any other type of break!
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queen bodecia, Bike trips hun... come on.. ya know you want to Toofy Grin
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Scarpa, I certainly do, but on a limited budget skiing has to come first. Bike trips do not work out cheap, mainly because I refuse to camp. Sleeping in fields is for livestock. Laughing
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