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Atomic R412 - bindings lateral release plate problem

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I have these on my Atomic 11:20's. For the third time now the plastic plate on the binding has broken. This plate holds in the anti-friction device that allows for the lateral release of the binding. Not something you want to lose in the backcountry. The first two times they broke I put it down to damage in transit through airports and managed to get friendly blokes in ski shops to put a new one on in return for a beer.

The thrid time it happened it couldn't have been down to damage in transit (I drove) and I therefore dropped Atomic a note to ask what's the problem? A nice bloke from Atomic called me back earlier this week and said the binding wasn't mounted properly when I bought the ski (3 seasons ago). Apparently they put a note in the box reminding people how to do it correctly. He asked where I got them (Snow and Rock, Port Solent) and who mounted the binding (bizarrely I could remember the guy's name). Mr Atomic is going down to Port Solent today or tomorrow and will talk to them about how to resolve this.

My question is what is an acceptable solution? Can the plate be replaced, the binding remounted correctly and everything be OK. Or has this problem damaged the ski and should I therefore demand a lot more?

Least of all I will expect something for having to take the skis back to Portsmouth.
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This plate?


This is the third time I've heard of this. In truth, the first time was with a Xentrix not R. Unfortunately, I didn't call Atomic when it happened to me! (2002/03 R412 mounted to an '01 9'16 SL ski)

I paid the difference for a binding upgrade to a 614, remount was free, and no plates were changed in the making of years of user happiness.
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comprex, That's the one!

My wife has the Xentrix on an 11:20, but her skis were bought in Verbier, where I guess they read the instructions as she hasn't had any problems at all. From some other threads I've read this seems to be a real dog of a binding. Sounds like I should go for anew binding. Is the 614 a better binding than the 412?
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Nothing wrong with the 412's I've got.

But, I can't seem to move the toe piece back on the plate, I want to readjust them for some other boots and, thinking it was a 2 minute job, couldn't see how they worked last weekend. Anyone got the manual electronically?
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Steve Sparks wrote:

Is the 614 a better binding than the 412?


It was for me; I gained some (all right, a fair amount of) weight!

You might be able to get the new Twin Disc AFD and the 614 gets you 5 locking front/back positions.
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ise wrote:
Nothing wrong with the 412's I've got.

But, I can't seem to move the toe piece back on the plate, I want to readjust them for some other boots and, thinking it was a 2 minute job, couldn't see how they worked last weekend. Anyone got the manual electronically?
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Atomic toe piece has a lever in the front. Push it to the right and it will raise a set pin allowing you to move the piece. Iif stuborn lightly tap the toe piec with a wood mallet . It should move easily then and you will feel the set pin click into each new setting hole.
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