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Riding on the flat--------WTF?

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OUCH ... I am rather attached to my front teggies so best advice would be if you are gonna fall off, clam up, eave the laughing to your mates and then you might just end up with a fat lip (which is also amusing but not so expensive)
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or everyone can all learn to ski


http://youtube.com/v/9uQwW5JVTek

skip to 40 seconds, nothing happens before then
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dulcamara, Ok, thats cool Cool Shocked Cool
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I'd suggest that if you are losing teeth you're putting the bar in the wrong place.
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I know where i would like to tell some people where to put it Twisted Evil
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I got publicly berated for saying something similar was "cool" on here once.

Apparently it's bad for the draglift, bleat bleat, bawwwwwww.

Cool though eh.
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yes, drag-lift longevity is paramount here on snowheads, stop messing roundpaulio,
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catching an edge going straight is normally rotating the shoulders to face the downhill part, then your lower body follows and BLAM, goggles dent in the forehead.
It's all about weight forward, if you lean back the rear of the board wants to overtake you and BLAM, goggles etc. And you are almost always slightly on one edge, not always the case though. In slush thats a sure fire way of dragging your toes/heel in the slush and BLAM, goggles, head, pain etc.
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Most illuminating thread, but somehow I still think I'll keep my planks, thanks.
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andyph, all skiers should try boarding and vice versa. In paulio's New World Order this would be LAW.
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its definitely a good thing, makes you realise how the two vary, never gave much thought to why the two sports (if you can cal boarding a sports, its a fad really, it'll pass soon wink ) clash so much

e.g
-Boarders have a blind side but can see behind them,
-Its harder to change direction/rhythm quickly on a board
-Boarders learn by going straight down the hill slowly and skiers go side to side
-obviously never realised how ridiculously easy the flat bits are on a board

Up until now I just assumed you were all physically and mentally retarded, tiny brained amoeba/human cross-breeds in baggy pants...... or something

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paulio wrote:
all skiers should try boarding and vice versa.


Agreed.

For the same reasons everyone who takes their (car) driving test ought to be made to have at least one day on a bike. Neither have much chance of happening though.

John.
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Hmmmm. I board and teleboard, ski and telemark, I drive a car and now an 18wheeler and I've had a bike licence for nearly four decades and for nearly three of those only used a bike and I cannot believe how much angst there's been in this thread about slapping a flat board down the fall line . . . I give up, yer all turning inta jessies Embarassed
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Masque, That is the point - no fall line just the flats. I think most have no angst though and it is just a stage that all boarders have to go through to be able to straightline the flats Very Happy

I need a boarding holiday and it is September, so the summer is gone, a glacier must be up for grabs somewhere. Any one fancy a jaunt to the Stubai Glacier ?
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rayscoops, I think he's talking about just running the board flat along a shallow fall or along a level piece of piste. I'm afraid that my nearest glacier as of next week will be in Washington State. Confused
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My nearest Glacier for a while will probably be of the mint variety Sad
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My advice: get a decent board with a nice fast base.
I always used to struggle on the flats on rubbish hire boards. Then I bought my own, made sure it was nicely waxed and topped it up daily with paste wax -> result I was blazing along the flats passing most skiers.

Don't listen to the rubbish about staying on an edge too - if you try and stay on one edge for any length of time you'll just knacker your legs and probably end up actually catching an edge. Just relax, ride it flat, put in small turns to scrub speed if you have to and only really use your edges if you have to go round corners.
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thefatcontroller, I'll give you 4 days max and you'll be back on planks. If not I'll buy you beer in a piste side bar in Les Arcs (if I can find one!) Toofy Grin
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ronaldothefrog, I don't 'stay on an edge', I alternate gentle pressure between toes and heels. If you keep your board on a flat base then it will take the line that the terrain dictates, rather than the line you want. I don't care how good a boarder you are, if you spend a lot of time razzing it with your board 'proper' flat then you're going to catch an edge at some point. I guess it all depends on the flats you are trying to get across, there's one which sticks in my mind in Val Thorens where in order to get past it I had to be going full tilt when I hit the start of it. If you think that I'm going to put my base completely flat doing 25mph+ over chewed up piste then you've got another thing coming (I'll gladly watch you do it though Laughing)
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thefatcontroller, I'll give you 4 days max and you'll be back on planks. If not I'll buy you beer in a piste side bar in Les Arcs (if I can find one!) Toofy Grin


Only if its a beer in 1950 as I know that will hurt the pocket Toofy Grin Laughing
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TotallyBoard wrote:
I don't 'stay on an edge', I alternate gentle pressure between toes and heels.


so you're always slightly on an edge then.

detuning the board kills most of the catching an edge problem, rockers virtually eliminate it.
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I have a sneaky suspision my rental board may not be rockered..... but i'll ask
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Jonny luv plums wrote:
TotallyBoard wrote:
I don't 'stay on an edge', I alternate gentle pressure between toes and heels.


so you're always slightly on an edge then.


wink

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detuning the board kills most of the catching an edge problem, rockers virtually eliminate it.


wink

John.
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I have a sneaky suspision my rental board may not be rockered..... but i'll ask


there are some around, K2 and ride do a rockered rental aimed at beginners, I think it picked up an expo award for innovation or something, I wasnt listening properly to the man. K2 do a kids rockered board with catch free technology that did get an expo award, in other words a rocker.
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There's a big difference between 'staying up on an edge' and applying gentle edge pressure to cut through chop. Maybe you lot have all the touch of a gorilla Wink
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WTF! We're now talking about hiring boards designed and detuned so that you don't have to learn to ride a board! You're not just jessies, you're empty, waxed sac, panty wearing jessies . . . no wonder you can buy pink for 'men'.

It's not dangerous nor difficult to straightline a board with it's base flat to the surface at any speed but it's not particularly interesting and there's a lot more fun to be had on its edge. It is JUST balance and practice! As long as your mass is passing into the board along its longitudinal centre-line and in the front half of the contact patch it will track cleanly. If the board wants to turn and you don't . . . you're NOT BALANCED. Get yerself videoed and look at your body position.

Any more of this crap and the skiers will realise that you're not wearing those baggy trews to allow for freedom of movement and your gigantic plums but just to trap the gas you pass when the going gets tough . . . or flat rolling eyes
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coming from the guy who skied the MSB races NehNeh
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Jonny luv plums, you have to know your enemy to defeat him wink
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Masque, hehe, keep your friends close and enemies even closer stylee.
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Ok, so i'd like to take this opportunity to refer back to my original post in order to point out how much of an undefined technique this one is....


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Since then i have been offered advice including, press on one edge, press on both edges, stand in the middle, lean forward, lean back, go for it and shut up stick lover you're not man enough for boarding.


In 2 pages we've had all but "lean back", but at least i'm getting there, i'm taking stay on edge, lean forward and don't be a pansy to the slope next time... EASY Cool
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dulcamara, you have been distracted by the 'how to run a board flat' smoke screen and as most will agree a board rarely runs flat (on piste any way - powder is different) so ........ simply ........ a slight edge bias all the time or change from edge to edge and maintain front foot pressure Very Happy
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Buy BATALEON....................& APO EXPRESSO's, you cant go wrong on the flat whatever the situation!!
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abeeyare, actually the type of board does help. Go stiff and long Shocked wink
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hehehehehe Embarassed
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Get your weight right back and do a tail press across the whole thing. I have a mate who tries this, he always fails though.
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i usually ride on a flat base,not using the edges
a lower riding position helps alot
ray
when you thinking of stubai?
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nigel b, when a decent bid of snow comes and sort out the sale/BTL mortgage of a house I am just finishing the refurb of, maybe in 6 weeks or so I suppose

you must be getting itchy snowboard feet ?
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rayscoops,
i already have
booked so far mahrhofen in january and usa in feb
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nigel b, Very Happy
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nigel b, superb, how about i buy u a drink in mayrhofen and you can take me down the ahorn where this whole thread began and demo the right way to not die on the flat
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