 Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| NomadicBoo wrote: |
| So I am looking for something that has great edge grip but also good off piste. |
Dynstar Legend Pro
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Arno, Cheers. reading up on them now. Do you have them yourself?
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Arno, the Pro's only come in 186 and 194 which I am confidnent will be too big for me. The Legend 8800 are in 158, 168 and 178 - what do you think of those?
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NomadicBoo, you must be looking at old info - the now come in 176, 184 and 190
i have an old pair of teh 186s which I loved but which i am probably retiring this season. they are built for going fast. if you were using one of the top-end Atomic SX skis (ie SX11 or SX:B5) and could use them properly, you'd probably have fun on the LPs
the new generation is apparently a bit softer and more forgiving (boo!) except in the 190 (yay!)
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NomadicBoo, Arno makes a good point, " if you...could use them properly"
Most modern skis are good. Most modern skis hold edges on ice. If you find the skis aren't, well I'm afraid I'd suggest that's probably a function of user error rather than kit problems. Likewise off piste.
Anyway, what use is asking us? You need to go out and try lots of different things.
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Arno, Cheers!
barry, thanks I will check them out now. Unfortunately speed is my only attribute. No power or weight to speak of I am afraid. Maybe I should start riding girls skis? 
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| under a new name wrote: |
Most modern skis hold edges on ice. |
not if you ate all the pies they dont 
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under a new name, I agree if I had that problem on most skis but it's only on one pair which would say not a user error. Also, I had someone else try them out (who is a lot better than me) and they had exactly the same problem (I must add that the skis were also a few seasons old and likely demolished on the park when I got hold of them).
I agree I need to try as many pairs as I can but here is a good place to narrow the list down. I have neither the time or(unfortunately) the money to try on infinitive numbers of skis!
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I don't see why the Lords are being ruled out, they are a great all rounder!! also up the top of the list for all rounders might be the Stockli Rotors or Scott Crusades, I have owned/own both and they have good solid cores for the grip and nice wide tips for the lift.
If you want more on piste performance I would definitely shy away from the twin tips as they tend to mess up the carve of the ski and people mount the bindings too far forward for speed. Also they generally have pretty damn slow bases, I'm like you, i like going forward fast and twin tips make me angry.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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NomadicBoo, Icelantic Pilgrims. 
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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NomadicBoo, are you a laydee? if so, sorry - hadn't been paying attention Legend Pro isn't the answer probably (unless you RIP)
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Poster: A snowHead
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| Arno wrote: |
| NomadicBoo, are you a laydee? if so, sorry - hadn't been paying attention Legend Pro isn't the answer probably (unless you RIP) |
Well he did say that maybe he should start riding girls skis 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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NomadicBoo, throwing something else up for consideration; K2 Apache Recon or Xplorer, depending on how much time you spend off-piste, or Elan Magfire 82 (I think that's what they're called now) as a good all-rounder.
I can also offer praise for the Legends, but these are worth a try as well.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Andyph,
100% agree with you, these are all great all-round skis as well, but am I the only person who thinks they are just NOT COOL!! no one ever glanced down at a pair of apaches and said "Yo dude, sick sticks, massive props to ya" and I think we all dream of that don't we... case rested
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dulcamara, I think there's a thread for that discussion. 
Seriously, the last thing I worry about is what skis look like, or what other people think of them. The first time I rode Atomic SX's I think the graphic was a cast-off from the portfolio of an 80s design student. An Austrian one, at that. But god, could they rip!
And I doubt anyone would say "massive props to ya" to me, as I am not 15.
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i've been told I look like a massive prop on my gladiators, but dont think it were meant in the same way
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Hehe freestylers aren't skiiers!!!! just a bunch of baggy panted gymnasts on skis......PULL YOUR TROUSERS UP AND LEARN TO TURN!!!!
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Too many recommendations, accusations I'm a bearded lady, insults to freestylers....I'm worse off than when I started
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NomadicBoo, fairy nuff
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NomadicBoo, Try the Scott Punisher, and stick with 172 for that ski, seriously
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Suspect people are listing the skis that suit them rather than what would suit a 5'8", 10.5 stone skier. For example the Dynstar Legend Pro likes longer turns and could be a handful for a lighter skier (although I appreaciate Arno qualified his suggestion).
Atomic Nomad Crimson (wider than the black eye so better float offpiste)
Head Mojo 94
Head im82 (more of an all rounder)
How often do you ski, how often do you get to ski powder? If most of your skiing is on piste one solution might be just to rent wide skis when it dumps. This also gives you an opportunity to try different skis. Once your offpiste skill has improved you may not need such wide skis for offpiste. As others have said improving your skills will make more of a difference than changing your skis, I know a few skiers who ski powder with race skis. Improving your balance will help a lot too, your money might be better spent on lessons and a balance board.
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DB, switch that nomad crimson for a nomad savage ti and you have a winner
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You know it makes sense.
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under a new name, you've lost me?
DB, Thanks for the input. I'm leaning towards Atomics at the moment (I've had success with them in the past) so I am going to try an test Blackeye's and Crimson's. I ski often, solidly for the last 3 months (3-4 times a week) and I am moving to Austria in a few weeks so would expect at least one weekend a month in season plus a few full weeks. As regard to powder and off-piste in the Suspects I am using now that's where I am most comfortable! It was my old Atomics that I had difficulty with off-piste.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Have a look at Line Prophet 100s.
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Poster: A snowHead
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NomadicBoo, you're moving to Austria but won't have time to try a few pairs? 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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NomadicBoo, I weigh the same as you do, but I'm shorter. I still think you'd enjoy a pair of Punishers 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Mojo's are good skis, if you ride hard the Black Crow Navis are worth a demo but might be too stiff for your weight. Nordica Enforcers (my own choice) seem a fantastic all round ski for lighter riders but last years weren't twin tip. Another good one is the Liberty Hazmat.
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Cheers all for the inputs. I have a pretty big list so I am going to try a few out. I'll let you know what I end up with!
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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NomadicBoo, the best all round ski ever is the Nordica Dobermann SL-R.
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Hello Off Piste-ers,
Going to Schladming and am determined to get to grips with off-piste skiing.I ski on Atomic SX 9s at the moment and love em but would they be suitable for a few forays into the deep stuff or would I be better of hiring a pair for the week and switching for the pow pow adventures.
Ta,
briand6868
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briand6868, I owned SX 9's and found them not great in the off piste when it was new thick snow. It could also depend on length too as I was skiing 160's. If they were a 170 plus I imagine they would have been a lot better.
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briand6868,
what is your height/weight.
I have SX9's... and I don't use them for off piste days.. although they are still fun when mucking about.... Anyhow... i am a bit of a 100kg lardy but my mate had no problem on them....
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. Then I developed in to more of an off piste skier and found they were no good in the thick stuff as they were too short, too heavy and non responsive generally and also they also didn't handle crud or ice particularly well either (or rocks 
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