 Poster: A snowHead
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I'm buying skis this year and heading into the park takes my fancy, but skiing on rails etc can't be good for your skis right?
Any advice? Should I steer clear if I want to keep my skis in good condition?
Cheers.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Kersh, Oh yeah 
Rent park skis (check they're NOT nice and sharp), buy snow skis. Unless you can find some nice cheap twintips on fleaBay.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Allot of the new twin tips have edge armour to keep them from getting to bashed and the bases tend to be a little tougher than your regular piste skis. After all that is what they are designed for
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True. Of course none of ^that^ helps when the edge and sidewall separate from the core.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Get over it?
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Kersh, if you plan on hitting rails everyday for the whole season, lets say 5 to 6 months, then yes you do run the risk of blowing out/damaging your bases and edges.
If however your going to be making 3 maybe 4 week long trips this year, I don't think you'll run much risk of seriously damaging your skis. Just remember to wax the well, and detune the edges underfoot.
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Cheers eveyone. Looks like I was right to be cautious. Maybe i'll hire a pair of park skis for my first couple of a goes! 
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Kersh, you gonna head round these parts?...
Got Burton's 'stash' park in Flachau winkl - along with the original Absolut park.
Then Schladming has quite a nice newish one as well; the Atomic park... some good rollers...
Eben's is shorter but great for trying boxes and rails as there are so many of them... terrible looking jump though... caused a bit of damage last year, hopefully this years will be a but better!
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OK, enlighten me, why was this taken seriously? My gut reaction on reading the title was 'well of course it will knacker edges and bases'. Since clearly you can get away with a certain amount from the responses above, my question is why? They sound terrible things for all but the most knackered skis
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Megamum, Agree, its obvious, metal against metal, that's why there hasn't been any comment for Spyderjon 
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| Megamum wrote: |
| ... my question is why? |
To have fun, at a guess.
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You know it makes sense.
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Well, i've never been in a park and to be honest have no idea what the kit is made of. While it seams obvious that they would be made of metal, it also seams daft to have somehting to use with skis that will knacker them? 
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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radar, if you land on and leave a rail or box cleanly then you won't do much harm (though thin rails can leave pressure grooves. But there are few people who get it right every time and many more who screw it up big time. Land on an edge or hit a corner of a box and you WILL do damage. The manufactures do toughen up their specific park skis and while they're considered bullet-proof . . . they're not numpty-proof.
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Poster: A snowHead
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hey Masque, but how many numpties ride the park!!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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the_doc, many more than the gods of steeze in the vids. Just sit on a bench at the bottom of a park with a beer and a sandwich and count the blown edges and gouged bases. It is mostly the fearless kids who bounce off the furniture without puncturing a lung or leaving puke in the piste that do the most damage. But fat old punters having a willy measuring contest can do some serious pTex harm too. 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Kersh, Masque, That was what I meant by 'why', i.e. why was it that a some people could get away with a certain amount of park use when it would seem obvious that parks would knacker bases. You answers both clarified that, thanks.
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It's really not too big a problem. The majority of 'rails' that people will hit are boxes, with a flat, slightly wider sliding suface covered in some kind of toughened plastic. Most are also ride on, or have a very small gap from the snow to the box, meaning the impact of the ski hitting the plastic/metal is minimal. Once you move up to single barrel handrail style rails with larger gaps the risk is higher - but then generally the skill level is also higher, so you're less likely to be slamming your skis hard onto the metal.
I've skied park for a long while, and in probably 7 years, including 3 full seasons, plus riding at indoor slopes, I've only ever fully broken one edge. Of course, the edges get dulled underfoot by the rails, but it doesn't make a huge difference when skiing elsewhere on the hill if your technique is solid.
I wouldn't worry about it. Skis are meant to be used and enjoyed.
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| MagSeven wrote: |
| Skis are meant to be used and enjoyed. |
Agreed.
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Masque, yes, but don't complain if the rental shop gives you last year's tat if the snow is poor with rocks everywhere 
If you spend a lot of time in the park you accept that it will an an effect on your skis/board. The same if you ski when conditions are a bit marginal and there's the danger of hitting rocks.
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Megamum, your asking why anyone would want to jump onto rails?
Why would anyone want to spend thousands of pounds, going somewhere so cold they need to wear several layers and slide down very steep hills very quickly on bits of metal and wood that are strapped to their feet and then taking machines back up to the top of the mountain to do it all again.
Umm, because we're skiers, its what we do.
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buckers, Nope I was asking, why would anyone ask if skiing on rails etc. would be likely to damage bases, edges (which I took to be the OPs question), when it would seem obvious to me that it would. However, several here have indicated that if skied carefully rails can be skied with minimal damage so maybe the OP was actually a valid question
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Masque,
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they're not numpty-proof.
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Been away to flat Norfolk or would have posted sooner, I do watch in admiration when you see someone do it well, but most are in the numpty class 
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If you rent twins and hit rails make sure that blown out edges are covered under your insurance. It would be a pain to have to pay for the skis even though they are not yours.
As well as everything mentioned above I would add that edge cracks are common after riding rails a bit but most skis will remain skiable as long as the edges don't start to seperate.
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