 Poster: A snowHead
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| Helen Beaumont wrote: |
| Uni ski trips are also an awful lot mroe expensive than going with Mum and Dad. |
But don't mummy and daddy normally bung their little cherubs at least a monkey in pocket money? Wouldn't want them to miss out on Pimms O'clock, what what!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Its because of these sorts of things that far to many people phone in work stating they are sick, when in fact thy just want the day off
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It all depends. Yes, if you lie about being "ill". No, if you discuss with those concerned and make a responsible decision.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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PJSki, I certainly can't afford to bung my kids that amount of money as pocket money. Not every uni student has rich posh parents you know.
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Helen Beaumont,
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Not every uni student has rich posh parents you know
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I don't think you'll succeed in making any mark on PJSki's chronic inverted snobbery. 
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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She is privaleged to go to University. She should not abuse that privalege
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Indeed - she should do what any self-respecting student does and get pished all the time and sleep it off in the lecture halls.
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| Boris wrote: |
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She is privaleged to go to University. She should not abuse that privalege
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Indeed - she should do what any self-respecting student does and get pished all the time and sleep it off in the lecture halls. |
...and get shagged, she'll want to get shagged too. Every uni gal should feed her bulldog with porridge.
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| PJSki wrote: |
| ...and get shagged, she'll want to get shagged too. Every uni gal should feed her bulldog with porridge. |
and they call me boorish 
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| ...and get shagged, she'll want to get shagged too. Every uni gal should feed her bulldog with porridge. |
and they call me boorish |
Well, it's the truth. What do people fink these kids do at uni?
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We pray to God that one day there will be world peace and go on long fasting sessions. Booze is an absolute no.
That was sarcastic in case it wasn't obvious...
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Christina1, If she wants to go with you she will go, it is not your decision. If she wants to stay behind fine, IT IS HER DECISION!
I would not echo anyones breakfast references.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Haven't read the rest of the comments but go on holiday and leave her behind as she will be having to much fun taking drugs, drinking lots and blowing the rugby boys. Enjoy yourself, don't worry about her 
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| Helen Beaumont wrote: |
| Uni ski trips are also an awful lot mroe expensive than going with Mum and Dad. |
But they are a hell of a lot more fun.......
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You know it makes sense.
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She is privaleged to go to University. She should not abuse that privalege
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Indeed - she should do what any self-respecting student does and get pished all the time and sleep it off in the lecture halls. |
...and get shagged, she'll want to get shagged too. Every uni gal should feed her bulldog with porridge. |
Haha thats one of the best posts ive ever read. Never a truer word spoken.....
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| Timbobaggins wrote: |
| She is privaleged to go to University. She should not abuse that privalege |
Sure and with the governments "everyone's got to go to uni, therefore lets make the A levels a piece of p1ss programme" then soon little Johnny will be eligible for university having achieved a GNVQ in catching the bus
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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bertie bassett, I'll be in line when they offer certificates' how to use an alpine ski lift' - but will I need the bus catching one first ? 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| Helen Beaumont wrote: |
| Uni ski trips are also an awful lot mroe expensive than going with Mum and Dad. |
Yes, but she may get A Life 
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Have a word with the tutor when she gets there. I guess if you're upfront about it then it'd be ok. Some courses do have an attendance requirement. As others have said, if the course has a practical aspect eg labs then missing a week can be a pain. If you're lucky they may let you make the time up.
I guess as others have said you can't really know til you've started the course, then decide for herself.
I work at a university on a science course and did a chemistry degree myself, I don't think missing a week would have hurt me or would affect most students. Just make sure it's not round exam time, never mind the course worring about it may ruin the holiday
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Christina1, I would say its her decision, but could a university say 'no?' Given that the tuition is paid for these days (AFAIK) I would have thought that if your daughter wanted to take a week off the Uni couldn't stop her as it would be her own cash she was wasting.
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Megamum, I don't suppose any education institution can "stop" anyone from taking a week off, from nursery school onwards; it's the potential penalty that drives the decision whether the risk is worth taking.
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Didn't CSJ used to have time off for her ski trips? IIRC she used to write that she used to have a word with her tutor and arrange to catch up stuff later as and when necessary - I don't recall that time off was something she used to have a problem with.
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the Uni couldn't stop her as it would be her own cash she was wasting.
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of course the Uni couldn't stop her, but if their system monitors attendance and attendance is part of the overall assessment, or even if her tutor make it clear he/she takes a dim view of it, those factors would influence her decision. The LEA can't stop you taking your kids out of school for a ski trip, either, for that matter but that's a subject which has been aired plenty of times here.
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the Uni couldn't stop her as it would be her own cash she was wasting.
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of course the Uni couldn't stop her, but if their system monitors attendance and attendance is part of the overall assessment, or even if her tutor make it clear he/she takes a dim view of it, those factors would influence her decision. The LEA can't stop you taking your kids out of school for a ski trip, either, for that matter but that's a subject which has been aired plenty of times here. |
Anyone who does that should be locked up.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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I tend to think that a ski trip might be looked on more favourabley than for example 2 weeks on a beach in Spain. The LEA's themselves support the school organising ski trips themselves that take kids out of school for a week, so I can hardly see that they can legitimately object to parents doing the same thing.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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PJSki, and the key thrown away?
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| pam w wrote: |
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the Uni couldn't stop her as it would be her own cash she was wasting.
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of course the Uni couldn't stop her, but if their system monitors attendance and attendance is part of the overall assessment, or even if her tutor make it clear he/she takes a dim view of it, those factors would influence her decision. The LEA can't stop you taking your kids out of school for a ski trip, either, for that matter but that's a subject which has been aired plenty of times here. |
At post 16 the school can just remove her from role for it though... we've done that at our college when a student took 2 weeks off for a holiday even though they went with parents.
At pre-16 it goes down as unauthorised absence and can actually lead to the school taking direct action... before GCSE school is compulsory and parents do get issued warnings for withdrawing students and if it is a good school it can mean that they lose their place...
As a teacher myself we get enough holiday for parents not to need to withdraw students from school, i know it's expensive during school holidays but that's just the way it is... i'm with PJSKI on this one... there is absolutely no justification for withdrawing students from school to go on a leisure trip and as a teacher it has to be one of the most frustrating things i come across.
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You know it makes sense.
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| Helen Beaumont wrote: |
| Uni ski trips are also an awful lot mroe expensive than going with Mum and Dad. |
But they are a hell of a lot more fun....... |
Depends on the parents I suppose.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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It's up to her. University isn't school, she's an adult now!
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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earthtremor, then as a teacher how do you justify the school deciding to withdraw the pupils for a leisure trip - my school offered ski trips at age 14 and trips to Spain (non-educational) at 17, both in term time. Just because a trip is organised by a school doesn't make it more 'educational' or beneficial for the kids than one organised by the school.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Megamum, was that when you were at school yourself? Was it a traditional "bucket 'n' spade" type holiday in Spain?
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some school trips aren't very educational - my son in law recently went on term-time school trip to France, as a "first aider" - he's not a French teacher. He said it seemed a pretty fair waste of time; they spoke very little French indeed and it was mostly just a jolly - but a fairly boring one. He has organised lots of school ski trips and reckons they're more educational and certainly more fun.
Yes - it's for her to make her decision but on the basis of accurate information from her own university about her own course - people saying that the uni "won't notice" and "won't give a damn" may well be wrong. It would have been true when I was in uni but that was another era.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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My husband works in a university and they do take attendance lists at lectures and tutorials in his department. This is as a result of poor attendance levels and people struggling to do course work and exams properly, usually mainly because they're trying to earn some cash in a job.
It would be my suggestion that she informs the university about the trip if she intends on going.
Last edited by Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do. on Sun 23-08-09 19:48; edited 1 time in total
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Megamum, I see you mentioned me!
Yes, when I started college (which was my choice whether to turn up to or not) I already had a ski trip booked (the legendary end of season bash no less) and so I told my tutor. He was cool with it, especially as I said I was taking my laptop and had wifi so could download the lesson paperwork and presentations I was missing.
However when I wanted another week for the end of season bash in year 2 I was denied it *curses*
I suppose with uni it's the student's choice, I'd deffo say it was Christine's daughter's choice, and she should be able to skip a week no problem, question is - is it worth it? As many have said... if it's first year and marks not counted towards final then yeah do it - brain surgery workshops - nah, be cool stay in school.
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earthtremor, did you actually READ any of [b]PJSki's posts? ( the ones that the mods didn't need to censor[/b]  ) |
I only get my posts deleted because fat, little crybabies go sniveling to the mods about them. I post what I think, one of you lot reads it, gets all upset and demands that it's removed. They go crying to one of their mod mates and down it goes. You're all a bit pathetic, really. Unfortunately for you, the newer members aren't part of your clique, take people at face value and aren't interested in your shitty little version of forum history.
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PJSki,
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You're all a bit pathetic, really
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If that's your view, why don't you find somewhere more congenial to play, somewhere that your insight, wit and charm will be appreciated?
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You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
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| earthtremor wrote: |
| pam w wrote: |
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the Uni couldn't stop her as it would be her own cash she was wasting.
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of course the Uni couldn't stop her, but if their system monitors attendance and attendance is part of the overall assessment, or even if her tutor make it clear he/she takes a dim view of it, those factors would influence her decision. The LEA can't stop you taking your kids out of school for a ski trip, either, for that matter but that's a subject which has been aired plenty of times here. |
At post 16 the school can just remove her from role for it though... we've done that at our college when a student took 2 weeks off for a holiday even though they went with parents.
At pre-16 it goes down as unauthorised absence and can actually lead to the school taking direct action... before GCSE school is compulsory and parents do get issued warnings for withdrawing students and if it is a good school it can mean that they lose their place...
As a teacher myself we get enough holiday for parents not to need to withdraw students from school, i know it's expensive during school holidays but that's just the way it is... i'm with PJSKI on this one... there is absolutely no justification for withdrawing students from school to go on a leisure trip and as a teacher it has to be one of the most frustrating things i come across. |
In some businesses where there is a high percentage of female workers they all want leave in the school holidays...it is not possible for everyone to have leave in the school holidays as work must go on. Life is short and we put far too much value on compulsory education. Yes I agree with it in the most part but there should be an allowance for responsible parents taking their kids away for family holidays...especially in this day and age where family time is precious. The real disruption to education is frequent short term absence. Not one planned absence per annum.
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PJSki,
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You're all a bit pathetic, really
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If that's your view, why don't you find somewhere more congenial to play, somewhere that your insight, wit and charm will be appreciated? |
Excluding you and your snotty little mates, there are still loads of great people here. Well worth staying here to read what they think.
Last edited by Ski the Net with snowHeads  on Sun 23-08-09 20:55; edited 1 time in total
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's) said. she's an adult, her call. Uni won't even notice, and she can 'catch up' with anything she's missed from lecture notes and reading (if she needs to and can be bothered).
