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avoiding the swiss m'way tax geneva - driving directions

 Poster: A snowHead
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had to share this. have a great route to go through geneva into french resorts without having to pay the £20 swiss motorway tax after you've hired your car on the swiss side...

Start at Rue De Chantepoulet, GENEVE (CH). 245 m
Continue straight onto Rue Du Mont-Blanc.196 m
Continue straight onto Pont Du Mont-Blanc.399 m
Bear left onto Quai Du General-Guisan.274 m
Continue straight onto Rue Francois-Versonnex.100 m
Turn right onto Boulevard Helvetique.345 m
Turn left onto Rue Ferdinand-Hodler.262 m
Continue straight onto Place mile Guynot.55 m
Continue straight onto Route De Malagnou.1.3 km
You just left GENEVA
Continue straight onto Route De Malagnou. 1.2 km
Continue straight onto Route De Malagnou.60 m
Continue straight onto Route De Malagnou. 215 m
Continue straight onto Route De Malagnou.64 m
Continue straight onto Route Blanche. 401 m
Continue straight onto Route Blanche. 504 m
You are leaving Switzerland, and entering France.
Leave the Route Blanche and join the A411. 1.4 km
Leave the A411 and straight ahead into A411. 684 m
Leave the A411 at junction CHANGEUR ANNEMASSE and straight ahead into A40 direction GRENOBLE, [A40] LYON PAR ANNECY, [E25] CHAMONIX-MT BLANC.
This takes you to most the major French resorts...
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Welcome to snowHeads, flumpity, snowHead with what must be the most unusual first post I have seen Very Happy
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Am I missing something?
When we've hired cars on the Swiss side, we haven't paid any Swiss motorway tax, we got waved through on the border check point last time. Was there a vignette on our car already? I thought the tax was payable if you hired on the French side - or have I been a naughty tax evader? Toofy Grin
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flumpity, We used to do that route almost every weekend when we lived on the French/Swiss border at Versonnex. It never seemed as difficult as the directions seem to indicate.

IIRC We crossed the border into CH at Ferney-Voltaire then headed straight on down to the Lake, turn right keep the lake to your left and turn left over the Pont du Mont Blanc. Keep going on the main route which I am sure was signposted for Annemasse and Chamonix ( Mont Blanc Tunnel ).

The directions you have do have a different start point, singing chicken street, but both ways converge at the Pont du Mont Blanc.

CP
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Hywel, Your hire car must have already had a vignette, the Swiss border police/customs would not fail to spot you with a missing vignette.

CP
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If the border post is on the Autoroute, as it is at Bardonnex for example that most of you pass, then there's no way you'll get into the country without a vignette. You may be able to get out though. If you hired the car in Switzerland it will have a vignette of course.

If you don't want to pay the Swiss motorway toll than may I suggest you don't drive in Switzerland? There's no particular reason I should finance the road system with my tax so you can drive for free on it.

Good luck to anyone following those directions, they start in downtown Geneva not at the airport Madeye-Smiley
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ise, what is it with this vignette that makes everyone leaving Geneva so mean...... Anyway hire on the Swiss side, it's already got the vignette. Who wants to faff about all over the place. What we really want to do is get there as quickly as possible and SKI for goodness sake!!!!! It's onyl 40chf a mere drop in the ocean to what you've paid for the rest of the holiday, Evil or Very Mad
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Helen Beaumont, my guess is it becomes some sort of challenge for people Very Happy

For best value, hire in Switzerland and stay here Very Happy
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ise, I'll have to take you up on that sometime I think. Would love to ski in Switzerland . Maybe next year , once our apartment is earning a living (I hope!!)
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I thought the vignette is only needed on the motorway and the Basel border with Germany and the Generva border with France will require it to pass through. Driving in Switzerland the vignette is more important than a passport. At non-motorway borders like Annemasse and Chamonix the guards don't bother.

Thus avoiding paying the motorway tax is not to use the motorway.

Motorists pay much more in France and Italy to use the motorways. Any particular reason why we should avoid the Swiss one? I thought having the vignette in the windscreen is cool in UK because it proves the car survives the journey, especially if you have a few years collection of it.
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Got my first one this year saikee snowHead . Not sure I'd be so happy if I had paid for it in December though Sad
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We had to buy a National PArk pass when we went to Banff. It was about $70 dollars I think, but was valid for 12 months. Or rather in our case almost 13 as it is valid until the end of the same month. We gave it away to someone to use the next year.
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Alan Craggs wrote:
Got my first one this year saikee snowHead . Not sure I'd be so happy if I had paid for it in December though Sad


Yes, you would, you'd think "wow, this is a great deal, it's Dec 04 and I just got an 05 vignette that lasts till the end of January 06, how good a deal is that?" .... at least most people would Very Happy
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Now I have a story to tell.

I had a 2004 Swiss motorway tax vignette. I crossed the Geneva border and then Basel border when I returned back to UK on 9 January 2005 fully expecting to pay for the 2005 tax.

However I wasn't stopped. Is there is grey period like UK that the tax disc covers a small period of the following year?

The Swiss vignette is applied by the border guards personally to the car windscreen inside and normally would tear off if removed, making it impossible to transfer to other vehicles. Just before the arrival to the border some people pre-coated the windscreen with moisture on winscreen and can remove the vignette later for transferring to another vehicle. This is illegal but is known to practise by some UK mortorists who go to Switzerland at different times.

Until the longest road tunnel was built in Norway in the last year or two the Swiss vignette entitles a motorist to go through the St Gortard tunnel, longest record holder at the time, free. That alone should make paying the vignette worthwhile.
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saikee wrote:
Now I have a story to tell.

I had a 2004 Swiss motorway tax vignette. I crossed the Geneva border and then Basel border when I returned back to UK on 9 January 2005 fully expecting to pay for the 2005 tax.

However I wasn't stopped. Is there is grey period like UK that the tax disc covers a small period of the following year?


That's what I just said Very Happy eg. a 2005 vignette covers 1/12/2004 until 31/1/2006 so your 2004 one was valid from 1/12/2003 until 31/1/2005
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ise,

Thanks for the confirmation.
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In practice apart from the borders they're not checked much, I saw a guy this morning in the local petrol station buying a 05 pass which he probably should have had already.
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