Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Last edited by Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person on Wed 6-05-09 20:10; edited 1 time in total
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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II,
If these are rock-hoppers then maybe you think they are on the way out..
Just ask for a service and point out what your edges are set at....
You might want to ask them what they'll do and then you have to re-direct them.....
I'd have them waxed as well... and if you think they are the type of store that woulde skimp on edges and grinds, then why would you think about taking them there anyway.
I can't see anything in your bases that would be much of a problem to a decent shop..
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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II wrote: |
My question is what do I expect back I'm going to ask for a base grind and them to set the edges at 1 degree and 88 degrees no wax....
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IME, few UK shops are willing to set the edges at the customers specific requirements - they will have their standard settings, which *may* be 1 and 88, but maybe not. When having a base grind done these days, I tend to ask for *just* the base grind, and do the edges myself (by hand or discman, depending on the skis).
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How much base does a base grind remove?
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There are two schools of thought: fill what you can, and then base grind the rest; and grind what you can, and then fill the rest. Inevitably the first removes less material - you need to discuss it with the shop.
Jon's ski tuning is probably the best place to get what you want done all in one place, as Jon will listen to what you want and deliver.
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I'm with RobW, just ask for a grind only & then re-set the edges yourself.
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I try for a base grind at Ellis Brigham, but they won't do it.
No bevel, no grind
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spyderjon, do you offer base grinding services?
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RobW wrote: |
IME, few UK shops are willing to set the edges at the customers specific requirements - they will have their standard settings, which *may* be 1 and 88, but maybe not. When having a base grind done these days, I tend to ask for *just* the base grind, and do the edges myself (by hand or discman, depending on the skis). |
The place at milton keynes will do it. I got a pair of sl skis done asking for 1 base and 3 side (my rock piste skis). They tried to tell me they would be too aggressive (wtf, that is normal tune for race skis) but did it to my request.
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Mosha Marc, funny that as EB's at MK will do a grind only.
rob@rar, Usually yes. I have 'sneaky out of hours' access to a machine which is well maintained etc & gives a good finish. It currently needs a new stone (I've redressed the existing one a few times but it's beyond redemption) which unfortunately won't be replaced until the start of the next season. Lockwoods will be doing any grinding I need from now until then.
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Does base grinding really make any significant difference to non-racing ski? Said he looking at his Missions bases.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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achilles, depends why you're needing the grind. Assuming that the ski started life flat(ish) then the usual reasons are:
1 - the base structure's worn out/smooth
2 - the base angles are damaged
3 - the bases are significantly damaged
4 - the base edge angles are over bevelled due to general wear or over tuning
5 - the base have worn concave (snow)
6 - the bases have worn convex (plastic)
7 - a combination of the above, usually 1, 2 & 3 (as II's skis above)
A racer will definately want a decent structure but a recreational skier will benefit from a decent structure in spring/moist snow conditions, although Zardoz has somwhat negated this. I try & avoid grinding for as long as possible but for most recreational skiers the time for a grind is when it's no longer possible to get a decent edge tune due to damage to the base edge etc.
achilles both your & Kramers's Missions are ready for a grind as they've both done approx 7/8 weeks which included a lot of off-piste use.
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You know it makes sense.
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II, those "rock-hoppers" are in a better state than my main skis
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Snap, They do look in quite good condition, i usually only base grind when the base edges have gotten really beat up from rock hits. scratches in the plastic arent a big deal IMO and as the others point out an overly aggressive base grind can really take off a lot of material
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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spyderjon, OK, boss. I may be going down to Lockwoods for a boot tweak - in which case I shall ask if they can grind them whilst I am there.
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Poster: A snowHead
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spyderjon wrote: |
rob@rar, Usually yes. I have 'sneaky out of hours' access to a machine which is well maintained etc & gives a good finish. It currently needs a new stone (I've redressed the existing one a few times but it's beyond redemption) which unfortunately won't be replaced until the start of the next season. Lockwoods will be doing any grinding I need from now until then. |
Thanks. I don't have any skis that I'd want to grind now, but useful info for the future.
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