 Poster: A snowHead
|
|
|
|
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
|
|
properjob, welcome to snowheads. Notwithstanding your progress, you are a bit early to be buying skis at your stage in your skiing life. My guess is your tastes may change, particularly as you progress to more off piste. You've got a whole season - how about hiring to start with, then buying once you've clocked up a few more weeks? You might be able to strike a good deal with a ski shop on that basis.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
|
Thanks for the info achilles,
I see your point, I had thought of the hire route but it seems difficult to get the skis you want to try. Plus I'm only going to be there every other 2 weeks so getting to know a hire shop well that may discount a sale would be tricky. Easy to say now I know but, I don't think my taste will change greatly as I'm going to be in France where powder days are becoming more limited anyway and I've promised myself to avoid the snow park as I've learnt my lessons heading down that route mountain biking, and I'm not as indestructable as I thought I was back then! 
Despite my low numbers of weeks would it not be a benefit to have a long time to master just one ski instead of hiring the nearest I could get to what I wanted each time?
Cheers.
|
|
|
|
|
|
You need to Login to know who's really who.
You need to Login to know who's really who.
|
properjob, Welcome to  Personally I am a big fan of both of these skis I use the magfires in an 82 though as I spen a little more time off piste .There is very little diffrence between the two skis only cost. I have skid on both and even boght the Tornados for the old man this year.
Personally I would go and get the magfire 12 or 82 whatever they are called this year. Enjoy the shopping oh and I might have a pair of the magfires for sale in Sep 4 Weeks on snow fully hand serviced and waked by yours truly and only minor scratches on the top sheet.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
|
|
properjob, I have a set of Magfires 78Ti's never been on the snow, up for sale. PM me with an offer if you are interested
|
|
|
|
|
|
You'll need to Register first of course.
You'll need to Register first of course.
|
properjob, I would generally say buy skis and you are right to be looking at advanced skis. If you are a fast learner good skis will help you get to a good level if you use them properly.
You might find that you get a job which has equipment hire for the season included which would give you a chance to try more skis and change them with the conditions before buying. (although from your second post it appears you will only be out there some of the time may be not working???)
I have only tried the ordinary tornado I liked it but would prefer something stiffer for on piste and a bit wider for powder and slush. I considered the Tornado Ti but bought Scott Neos which ticked both boxes. On big powder days Something fatter might be nicer but they do fine and they eat crud. They are similarly stiff to the Ti not surprising both have wood and titanal construction.
Best of luck finding Tornado Ti at the moment. you could try edge2edge for ex hire at a discount they have em advertised but that sales been on a few weeks already.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
properjob, I have the 82's but pretty much the same piece of kit just with a thinner waist. There is nothing bad I could say about them so go nuts! Enjoy them nothing like having your own kit
|
|
|
|
|
|
You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
|
properjob, I tested the Tornado Ti this year and really enjoyed it. They really carve well on the piste but my off piste skills are similar to yours and while I went off piste on them, I can't tell you much about their performance. Although I really liked the Tornado's, I opted to do the same as RPF and bought some Scott Neos.
I'd recommend you think hard about the length of the skis you intend to buy. I'm also 180cm and 74kgs so near as dammit the same as you. I've got a few more weeks under my belt but I think we're a similar sort of standard. This year I bought skis for the first time (the Neo) and bought them in 176cm to give me a bit more float off piste. I'd recommend you buy skis at least 170cm in length (or longer) and if you think they maybe a touch on the long side then go and test some longer skis first. As you progress off piste, this will help.
Let me know if you want any advice. Being a similar stature to you, i've trodden this path this year.
Cheers
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Kersh wrote: |
| .....and bought them in 176cm to give me a bit more float off piste..... |
That sort of length seems to come in handy when on breakable crust, IME. Generally speaking, I have less problems on that than others. I am sure it has nothing to do with skiing ability, and a lot to do with my skis (178 Missions). Mind you, I am more than a tad heavier than you guys. 
And the skis didn't save me at the EOSB when I transitioned from lovely soft snow to breakable crust - without me realising it until I came a cropper.
|
|
|
|
|
|
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
|
|
|
|
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
|
Thanks guys,
I think I'll do some research on the Neos then, I thought I'd cracked it after my hours of reading reviews on the tornados and magfires! 
Kersh and rpf, are the neos still really good on-piste, how did they compare with the tornados on piste? I know the off piste is the route most go after experience but I think the usual snow conditions won't allow it frequently enough to loose on piste performance. I'm after a 70% ish on piste ski.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
properjob, Ive not skied the Tornado Ti, but on piste the Neo is better than the ordinary Tornado IMO. Holds an edge well likes to ski fast the edges engage and switch over easily. Probably similar stiffness to Tornado Ti. There are a lot of guys reporting much fatter skis working very well on piste too. Their real beauty is in how they deal so well with so much different snow.
They are good on powder and dont hook up as much as the tornados. Yes on the deeper days something fatter might be nice. and on the really hard ice something more race like would be better (but my technique skiing ice will be worked on first). 
|
|
|
|
|
|
You know it makes sense.
|
properjob, I've not skied on the Neo yet, my skis are somewhere in the post at the moment winging their way to me. I tested some skis this year and that gave me a beeter idea of what I wanted. After that I started to look into buying skis further and on paper, reviews and other people's recommendation (likeRPF and others), the Neo was the best ski for me. It was important that the ski went well on the piste because that's where I spend most of my time but want more off piste action.
If you look into the Neo, you'll probably find it will become a contender for you too. If you want to pick up a bargain, certainly look at Edge 2 Edge's sale like RPF says. I decided to buy my skis new and bought them without bindings from Ski Surf for £280 (stick it into google).
Cheers
|
|
|
|
|
|
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
|
|
properjob, can you get yourself down to a snowdome to test some different models? Afterall there's nothing like actually sliding around to find out whether a ski is the right choice.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Poster: A snowHead
|
|
abj, better out in a resort I reckon. I contacted some ski hire places before I went away this year and they had a pretty good selection. The only problem is it can be expensive to hire nice skis ... but it's free at Xscape or the dome.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
|
| Quote: |
it's free at Xscape or the dome.
|
That's what I was thinking. Although, at this time of the year, I don't know what sort range they'll have (?)
|
|
|
|
|
|
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
|
|
abj, I tried to test some Scott Neo's at any of the indoor ski slopes at the end of March but they had already sold alot of the ex-test skis and didn't have the Neo in the length I was after. I doubt they've got many at all now (unless someone knows better)
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
FAQ
) in control but technique needs some work ie black moguls, icy steeps. I intend to spend most of the time on piste but want the option of heading off if conditions allow. I like all kinds of skiing from short turns, long fast carves to bumps. I'm 180cm and 75kg so tend to use 164-170cm.
Are you able to find Tornado Ti at this stage of the season???? Edge2edge have some ex demo (they also have the neo exdemo and new) I'm not trying to pimp the Neos I promise but I do love 'em 
