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br3nnie, fellow snowHead solarfish emigrated out to Canmore, Canada a year or so back. I'm pretty sure I remember his wife gained a position in accountancy working for Sunshine Village ski resort. My memory may be failing or their situation may have changed (although I think he's still in Canmore) but, if you're thinking about the possibility of gaining accountancy work in a ski resort, it may worth PMing him for any information or help - I don't think he comes on sH that much  so may not come across this thread.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Are France receptive to British skiers learning to instruct?  |
In a word, 'No'.
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Location: Londonbr3nnie wrote:
Are France receptive to British skiers learning to instruct?
In a word, 'No'.
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But if you're ISTD EU rules mean they have to lump it!
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Location: Londonbr3nnie wrote:
Are France receptive to British skiers learning to instruct?
In a word, 'No'.
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But if you're ISTD EU rules mean they have to lump it! |
Yes, but L2 doesn't really help much 
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br3nnie, lift companies have all the same bean-counting needs as other businesses. You would have to both speak and write the local language to a decent level.
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sarah1992, do you work for CSIA? If so and the information above is incorrect then there is a large misconception that you need to work on. I got the information from many Europe based CSIA instructors I met this season as they were discussing the implications for them, it seems to be quite widely known in the industry.
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If you want to ski a lot during the season. Work your ar5e of during the summer and just skibum the winter. If you need to work, think about rental shops. In the shops sorting gear out in the morning. Ski the middle of the day, back to the shop in the afternoon or for yourself I'd consider looking at a job in Geneva or other city thats close to the snow and ski when you can.
I do know people working remotely in resorts for large companies. Work half days in their appartments on their laptops then ski half the day. Does your job able you to work like this?
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do know people working remotely in resorts for large companies. Work half days in their appartments on their laptops then ski half the day
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what do they do? where can i sign up 
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skimottaret, I could. But there would be a bijou problem on the domestic front.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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achilles, can we do a "job swap", will your role work in Mottaret?
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skimottaret, my job would work anywhere that would allow me to fly to Luton (or, less conveniently, Stansted) once a month or so. How are you with inter-active web design and 3D CAD - and how are you going to persuade Mrs a that this swap thing is a good idea??? 
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You know it makes sense.
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There is something what most of you guys here are missing Working in ski industry, or anything related to it, doesn't means you will be skiing on your own most of time. Working in rental shops means working in rental shops, not popping there on morning, and then skiing all day long. Being ski instructor means being on skis, but you have very little from skiing this way. Personally I spend on snow many many days as photographer (shooting mainly skiing WC during winter), but to be honest, skiing down the WC course to my spot with backpack full of camera gear, is not really skiing for me. So even if I spent huge part of winter on snow, I had about 20 or maybe 25 skiing days in whole winter... from October till May.
So if someone wants to ski, I suggest him/her to get normal job, preferably somewhere close to ski resorts, and ski in his free time. It will give you much more skiing, then when you are working in ski industry
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Morning All,
Apologies if this has been asked before, but I wonder if you all at Snowheads can help.
I'm currently looking at doing a season in Jan 2010 (either ski instructing or a season working) but need to look at life post April 2010. Does any one know of a snow industry magazine or website in which ski / snow related jobs are advertised?
I'm hoping to get involved with the management of a ski company / resort or the like. I'm looking for a career change after being a qualified accountant (no boring jokes please! ) and working in the City (London) for the last 5 years. Any suggestions on how to break into this or who to speak to?
Any advice would be much welcomed!
Bring on the snow next year...
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Natives are holding an open day (with quite a few TO's) at the Novotel West London in Hammersmith. From 11am - 5pm on 30th May. Not sure if you have to call them and book or just turn up.
You could give em a call and ask.
http://www.natives.co.uk/skijobs/jobsfair/report.html
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Job fairs are cool for jobs with big companies but lotsa smaller chalets just advertise their jobs online on sites like www.ski-jobs.co.uk and www.ukoh.co.uk cos they stay in the Alps rather than coming to London to recruit. Now and next month is the best time to start applying if you want to get the best chance for 09/10 season. best of luck!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Good luck getting a teaching job in France or Austria... To qualify for teaching you need to be super fast, I think it's somewhere within 4 seconds of a world cup qualifying time.
If you want to ski, don't teach, you will send every day on a green slope for most of your season. Have you thought about selling up and buying a business in resort, that way you get to set your own hours and be your own boss. There are always bars and restaurants looking for owners.
You won't walk into a management position with a TO, most of the managers have ben with the company for a long time and have done the rounds as far as jobs go. They will usually work in places such as Greece and Spain in summer too, no one wants to do that.
I have been lucky with jobs but I still won't get the jobs I want out in resort, Im one of 36 piste basher drivers in the uk but I'd never get a job as one out in resort. Ultimately you have to be adaptable, either go out and make the changes so you can work in resort or don't, don't go half cocked looking for an accountancy job and relying on that getting you your skiing hours.
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Bigpantsjayke, that's interesting, where do you work, Scotland or one of the indoor slope?
Your info on teaching in Austria is not accurate - it's v easy to teach in Austria with a low level instructor qualification. You're crrect in that to teach in France you have to pass the Eurotest ot the test techqique to become a stagiere, but it is achievable for a career instructor who does the training.
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Your info on teaching in Austria is not accurate - it's v easy to teach in Austria with a low level instructor qualification
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beanie1, I'm interested in your above comment as I'm looking to spend a season in Austria. I'm in the throws of taking my BASI Alpine Instructor L1 starting this week with some pre-course training sessions and then the L1 course itself at the end of June. The trainer who is taking the sessions/course is a guy that I think is known to some of you, Andy Jerrams. Everyone who I have talked to about the course has said that Andy is an excellent teacher
So my plan is to get my L1, perhaps some of my shadowing hours in the UK (if possible) and then head out to Austria. Whilst I'm out there I am hoping to do some more shadowing, complete my hours and do more if possible as I realise that this is a great way to learn from more experienced instructors. Gain more experience/knowledge, and generally progress towards being a better instructor with the required qualifications. Is that do able in your opinion?
I realise that I'll not necessarily be able to 'hit the ground running' so I have a few more irons in the fire in terms of getting by, finding work in other areas, etc. My biggest concern is my poor German, which I am currently working upon improving. Do you think that a lack of German would be a major stumbling block to achieving any of the above?
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Sleipnir, You (theoretically) won't be able to work in Austria with your L1 as it only qualifies you to teach on artificial slopes, however I'd have thought you'd be able to line up some shadowing, if you don't intend to actually work as an instructor.
If you do want to work as an instructor, you could either try and get all the shadowing done this summer and do your BASI L2 in November before the season starts, or do the Austrian Anwarter at the start of the season in AUstria. My understanding is that level wise this is similar to BASI L1, but it's an on snow qualification. This would probably be the route to take if you didn't think you were quite ready for your BASI L2. I know someone who did exactly that last season, now just about to do his BASI L2 after a season in Austria. Didn't get much work (but I think that may say more about him than about his qualification), so if you needed to earn enough to live on you might need to get bar work or something like that too.
Not speaking German shouldn't be a problem as long as you go to a resort that lots of Brits go to.
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I'm studying a course to Teach English as a Foreign Language
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Me too!! Which course are you doing?
Not sure there'd be a lot of paid work with that in AUstria (everyone speaks such good English anyway, and there's no shortage of people to practice with for free), but I thought if someone wanted to become a career instructor that would be a good job to have for the summers, get to teach all over the world.
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I'm studying a course to Teach English as a Foreign Language
Me too!! Which course are you doing?
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It's a CELTA based course. Just the first introduction course I guess you could call it. Thereafter I am thinking about maybe be the full time intensive CELTA course but that's more of a commitment and of course, expensive
Interesting your comments about teaching English. An Austrian friend of mine (Gabi) is involved in teaching English and she says that they value native English speakers and sometimes struggle to be able to get someone involved in their courses/workshops. The way she described it was that they can learn only so much from a text book, but to truly understand how a language is spoken, interaction with a native speaker is a better approach. I guess that you pick up on the idiosyncrasies on how a language is actually spoken/used. I'm hopeful that Gabi will be able to find me a little work in this area, probably as a glorified teaching assistant who can just pick a subject that interests her students and talk/debate, plus injecting a bit of reality about the English language that would not be covered in a text book
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Sleipnir, I think you'd probably need to go outside the ski resorts t find that though?
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| Sleipnir, I think you'd probably need to go outside the ski resorts t find that though? |
You are spot on. Gabi is based in the Austrian plains (close to Vienna) but as she said, it's only 2 hours to Ski Amade so being able to combine the two elements is a possibility (if you plan it ok)
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) so working in a city near the slopes could be ideal. Although doesn't solve the not wanting to be sat behind a desk problem...
's and thanks for a really useful first post 