This is the first time I've ever seen myself on telemarks and, even if I say so myself, I'm quite chuffed. Ok, so it's hardly the knarliest of terrain (a stiff blue), but the overall picture isn't bad.
I'm nowhere near as low as I thought I was though. Room for improvement there.
My poles also look a tad too long. Anyone have any comments on that?
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Result! Looks good to me. Well done.
Although, all I know about Telemark skiing could be written in large letters on the back of a very small stamp.
How're you liking the helmet? Very envious of that! Poles do look a little long too - maybe it's the angle and contrast doing it... unless tele and being lower means shorter poles are better? The weird tele hippies here all seem to have adjustable poles?
Looking good, anyway
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DaveC wrote:
The weird tele hippies here all seem to have adjustable poles?
What are you trying to say my friend?
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FlyingStantoni, Can only comment from weeks spent skiing with our tele-guy...
You don't seem low but if you are turning the shape that you want and need to then why worry? I think you'll go lower when you have to and when the terrain gets steeper anyway...as it is easier to get face-shots then...
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Poles could be a little shorter, drive more with the front knee it's just a little too straight up and down, more knee cap over the ball of foot.
Adjustable poles are nice but I break to many to use then myself on-piste.
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JT wrote:
You don't seem low but if you are turning the shape that you want and need to then why worry?
That's well put JT.
My point is that I thought I was as low as I could go. I'm clearly deluded and clearly can get much lower! Self-awareness and all that.
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Looking good. I defer to pinhead on the technical front but I'd not worry so much about flying low - Paul Parker thinks its perfectly acceptly to have a high stance although the powderwhores and other video stuff you tend to see shows a modern "knee to the ski" style. Keeping your front shin angled as in pic 1 cf pic 5 is definitely a good idea though. Does it feel nice & balanced?
Your poles probably are too long if they're your regular alpine jobbies - one of the reasons I bought some fliklocks so I could shave 5cm off for tele.
The only other tip I can think is knee separation - try to imagine squeezing an orange between yor knees is one tip I've heard
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pinhead wrote:
...drive more with the front knee it's just a little too straight up and down, more knee cap over the ball of foot.
Thanks pinhead, I'm doing tele again later in the week and will use that as a focus.
I certainly feel it when I let the front foot get too far ahead of me.
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At the risk of being shot down in flames - why do people telemark? Does it offer any advantages over conventional skiing?
You know it makes sense.
You know it makes sense.
Thanks fatbob. It definitely feels better when I'm driving that front knee. Much more balanced.
I hear what you say about the stance height. At the moment, though, this is about me understanding and developing my range of movement. I've clearly got another 6-8 inches of movement range. What I do with it is another matter!
I've got a cave full of poles of various sizes - so it's time to experiment.
fatbob wrote:
The only other tip I can think is knee separation - try to imagine squeezing an orange between yor knees is one tip I've heard
This seems to be a bit of a stylistic thing. Allen and Mike's book say knees together - two tele instructors I've skied with say knees apart. Any idea of the advantages of knees closer?
Any thoughts pinhead?
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Megamum wrote:
At the risk of being shot down in flames - why do people telemark? Does it offer any advantages over conventional skiing?
Free the heel, free the mind!
Drop knees not bombs!
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Spotted these on Mediazone earlier, FlyingStantoni. Cracking knees, Gromit!
Did you pick this up by yourself or is it so different from regular Alpine that you have to start from scratch? I've wondered about tele as it can look so graceful but I fear that my lazy-*rse thighs would thrown in the towel within minutes.
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FlyingStantoni, Looking good. It's my quest to learn Tele when Hemel opens, it's P S-G's second discipline, so I'm hoping for a few tips.
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Megamum wrote:
At the risk of being shot down in flames - why do people telemark? Does it offer any advantages over conventional skiing?
Megamum, that's a bit like asking why people snowboard or snowblade, rather than ski. It's just different. Not better. Not worse. Just different.
andyph, I've been having lessons off Joe Beer in Les Gets. He's a BASI Telemark Trainer and great guy to ski with. Worth doing a lesson the next time you're out.
I've wanted to cry (through quad pain) many a time after a few hours on telemarks. Good for the soul and all that
Utterly fantastic when it clicks though.
Very Zen.
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BTW - is it me, or does my left ski look longer than my right ski in photo 1???
Spyderman, more than happy to offer what humble crumbs of help I can.
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FlyingStantoni, OK, I didn't want to lead the witness but I wondered if it was Joe. His big advantage is that he has no weight bearing down on his legs when he's telemarking, leaping around moguls or floating over powder. Oh, and he's a 5hit-hot skier.
Looking forward to catching up with him in a week or so, and to hear how Delilah's been behaving. He said she'd only had one "accident" indoors so far, when I saw him in Feb. Tennis, golf, snowsports, riding, MTB, electrician, musician and now dog-trainer, is there no end to the man's talents?
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andyph, have you met Delilah yet? She is soooooooooooooo cute. And such a great pub dog. She (only) barks at children!
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fatbob wrote:
Megamum wrote:
At the risk of being shot down in flames - why do people telemark? Does it offer any advantages over conventional skiing?
Free the heel, free the mind!
Drop knees not bombs!
Sounds like a quote from PJSki's Staying Regular While on a Skiing Holiday thread
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FlyingStantoni, nah not yet, I've only had a couple of days in LG since she arrived. I'm sure my kids and OH won't go home without meeting her though
And that makes 500. Can't think of a (mental) place I'd rather be. Cheers!
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Congrats andyph.
Invite Joe and Babs to the pub after skiing. I'm sure they'll bring her.
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FlyingStantoni wrote:
Congrats andyph.
Invite Joe and Babs to the pub after skiing. I'm sure they'll bring her.
That's a cert, we usually import a consignment of Babs drug of choice, Yorkshire Tea.
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You know it makes sense.
Well done. Telemarking is something I've never tried, I've done xc, alpine, snowboarding & even blades , but telemarking demands ultimate respect.
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So you bend the knee - what does this accomplish wrt the ski? Is it to un=pressure it?
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LOL andyph - tea and Marmite are the bribes of choice in Morzine / Les Gets!
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ssnowman wrote:
even blades
I think I can safely say that we're all sorry for your pain there ssnowman
I don't know, though, XC has to be harder...
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Megamum wrote:
So you bend the knee - what does this accomplish wrt the ski? Is it to un=pressure it?
No but you do weight & edge heavily on the inside (rear) ski. If you're really interested I'd suggest working through this:
fatbob, I've tried the link - thanks, my network is running slow at the moment, but I've seen enough of the first video to see that it should explain lots about it, I'll give the vids another look when the network is not so busy. I don't think I want to try it, but I'm interested enough to want understand how and why it works.
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Megamum wrote:
At the risk of being shot down in flames - why do people telemark? Does it offer any advantages over conventional skiing?
Due to the free heel you can climb using skins and since tele gear is lightweight it makes it a good choice for longer ski tours.
You can mount alpine skis with AT bindings and achieve the same thing while having a locked down heel on the descents but alpine gear tends to be heavier.
LOL andyph - tea and Marmite are the bribes of choice in Morzine / Les Gets!
Pah, dried goods are for beginners! While we still went with ctskifam's outfit we used to pay for baby-sitting with English back bacon. The smell of proper bacon and eggs for breakfast as prep for a day's skiing is truly unbeatable.
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, but telemarking demands ultimate respect.
