 Poster: A snowHead
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Hi,
I am off to Whistler on the 1 April and need new boots, can anyone recommend a good boot fitter there please.
Thanks
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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fanatiko [sp] is the best place in town
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Agreed. When I went for my boots there I really wasn't sure as they felt a bit tight. I insisted on trying the next size up and in the end he relented to let me try them but said he wouldn't sell them to me. I bought the smaller pair and have not looked back since - they are perfect and that was 5 years ago. 
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CEM, would you consider a Dalbello Krypton Cross the right boot for an 55kg 1.75m intermediate female experienced but not aggressive doesn't like speed prefers not to go off piste and only just learning to leave tracks?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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slikedges, depends on their footshape of course and the ability to bend the boot, some people have a natural ability to bend a boot others just play at it 
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CEM, I thought it was a fairly stiff men's boot. Are there not a few other boots even in the Dalbello range that might suit a lightish non-aggressive intermediate female better?
Hint: http://www.dalbello.it/Women.aspx
The Krypton Cross is a high-end men's boot, is it not, judging by their men's range?
http://www.dalbello.it/Men.aspx
It's described as "slightly more forgiving in fit and function than the Krypton Pro" which is described as "has been developed for top level, aggressive and accomplished expert freeride skiers and competitors seeking a close and precise fit with powerful and responsive energy transfer."
Surely the Krypton Cross would be very far indeed from first choice for a lightish non-aggressive intermediate female?
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Thanks I ll go to fanatiko, anyone in particular there to ask for?
Also if my feet a supinated what should I expect them to recomend? a boot fix or wedges under the bindings?
thanks
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njl1968, it's Fanatical I think.
Personally I think George McKonky in McCoos is the guy to go to. Ex-WC circuit bootfitter. He doesn't sell boots, he only fits them - so you get sent out with a shopping list of boots; you tell the store that George sent you; they provide you with 3-4 pairs; George selects the appropriate pair and then fits them.
Actually, "fits them" is a bit of an understatement as he does a shell fitting. It really is quite an experience watching it happen.
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There used to be a guy at snowcovers who had a very good rep too.
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Snowcovers is supposed to be good if you want boots foamed.
SureFoot (SoreFoot) don't have a good reputation.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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FWIW had some boots fitted at Snowcovers, Vancouver in Jan 08. Excellent service, fit & price.
No foaming, just footbeds and a bit of stretching/grinding. Good price probably helped by the fact Mrs 1g and I both bought skis & boots.
Can't comment on service in Whistler as we headed for the Okanagen.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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slikedges, sorry i missed the cross bit...just read krypton
based on the description then prehaps the storm would have been better
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Personally, I wouldn't use Fanatyk Co. Wouldn't feel I could trust their attitude, whatever their knowledge/skills.
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You know it makes sense.
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| slikedges wrote: |
| Personally, I wouldn't use Fanatyk Co. Wouldn't feel I could trust their attitude, whatever their knowledge/skills. |
care to expand,
they have a pretty good rep amongst the boot pros over on epic
fatbob the guy at snowcovers is jay Taylor, he runs the place, another great fitter in Whislter
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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CEM, care to expand on my questions? If the storm would suit my descriptor, just who would all that long list of lesser women's boots in the dalbello range suit?!!
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Poster: A snowHead
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fatbob,
Do you have mens 24.5 for narrow heel, meduim forefoot, med high instep, 90-100 flex, performance boot in stock?
Cheers
NJL
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Nope - I do have some old Garmont Veloce tele boots in a 28.0 I can let you have
(I'm not a bootfitter nor work in a store btw, CEM on the otherhand  )
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Sure foot gave me my money back the fit was so bad... Avoid them
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slikedges being as your question was not related to the OP then not sure if i should bother, but
different boots in the dalbello range are like different boots in every boot range, the krypton series are 98mm in the forefoot the other boots on their site are different lasts upto 105mm [read bucket] the flex on the storm is varaible upwards from 75, not a stiff boot in any way, so yes i would say that it fits the profile pretty well, assuning the foot shape was applicable
boot manufactures seem to have this idea that lower perfomance skiers have wide feet and all beter skiers have narrow feet, i think dalbello actually have it pretty close to good, they have the storm a narrow last in a softer flex
njl1968, at this time of the season affraid to say none left [it's a nice position to be in] i will have a few of next seasons in the next month or so, but mainly race or boots based on race shells as these are available early
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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CEM, not doubting what you say re: 75-105 progressive flex feature of Storm but even Dalbello have all their lower performance boots as wide fit and some of their own descriptors of those that are lower down the women's range do sound like they would suit my own description of lightish non-aggressive intermediate female (ie not high performance) more accurately!
Anyway, I was really referring to this question:
| slikedges wrote: |
| Surely the Krypton Cross would be very far indeed from first choice for a lightish non-aggressive intermediate female? |
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slikedges, it is impossible to say without seeing the person flex the boot, but the cross as a mans/unisex boot so probably wouldn't be my first choice but stranger things have happened.....
the next thought is that unless said intermediate had larger feet than her stature would suggest then she is probably in a boot a size big [or the shop had a small pair kicking around] if the boot is big then the flex rating may as well be flung out the window as the shin will not contact the shaft of the boot correctly and therfor cannot flex the boot properly
most boot ranges are all over the place in terms of fit/performance I don't stock a boot below a 75 flex as there is seldom call for it from the skiers that i see, if i find a client who needs a softer boot i will either direct them towards a boot from elsewhere or soften the one we have that fits the foot shape
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CEM,
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| ...but the cross as a mans/unisex boot so probably wouldn't be my first choice but stranger things have happened..... |
Fanatyk co apparently didn't have anything else that fit the foot shape apart from the Krypton Cross and were pushing it.
I suggested politely (you've met me - have I ever been rude to you other than when you deserved it? ) that a next to top of the range men's boot [which I admittedly only later discover is described as "slightly more forgiving in fit and function than the Krypton Pro" which is their top boot described as "has been developed for top level, aggressive and accomplished expert freeride skiers and competitors seeking a close and precise fit with powerful and responsive energy transfer"] might not be the best choice for a 55kg non-aggressive intermediate female who avoids speed and off piste. They got huffy. Then rather rude and quite unprofessional.
Not an exact analogy I know but I liken it to seeing a "top" surgeon who you get the feeling wants to practise an operation on you whether you need it or not then gets huffy when you won't simply play along. I'm sure there are other boots, probably not from the Dalbello range, that are an equally good fit but more appropriate performance level. Good shop? I don't think so. A good shop wouldn't push something of dubious suitability just because that's all they had in and they wanted to make a sale.
Quite remarkable considering the excellent customer service my party had from just about everyone else in and out of every other establishment I visited over my 2 weeks in Whistler (and we went a lot of places and did lots of things, incld buying a whole new set of everything from various shops to replace stuff lost courtesy of BA T5 but that's another story).
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slikedges, from what i have heard about them that does seem strange but all it takes is one over enthusiastic sales guy to stuff a shops reputation
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CEM, possibly, but I asked to speak to the boss and a smug guy with a beard came out and basically told me and my questions to go stuff ourselves. Dunno if he really was the boss, but whilst he sure didn't mean to do me any favours, I don't think he did himself any either in these increasingly hard times. One meets all sorts in the hot tubs of the Fairmont. I do take your point though that this is just a single experience.
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| njl1968 wrote: |
Hi,
I am off to Whistler on the 1 April and need new boots, can anyone recommend a good boot fitter there please.
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Backing up the FlyingStantoni, (Cartman?) George at McCoos - but he may want to put you into intuition liners. Glen at Can Ski (Creekside), Erin at Can Ski (Village), Jay at SnowCovers.
There is one guy at Surefoot who is well regarded - don't know him though.
Thing is Surefoot, Can Ski, Snowcovers also employ their fair share of lemmings who are, well, a bit rubbish. You need a name. Don't know anyone who has used Fanatyk Co so can't help with them.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Yep.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Have also heard names Stan and Kyle mentioned.
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Thanks for the names, I have contacted snowcovers and Fanatyk, Snowcovers do not have any mens boots my size(24.5), Fanatyk say they have performance boots in my size maybe mens or woemns I guess! I have a feeling I maybe unlucky in which case I ll be going to CEM in autumn!
Is there a problem with 'intuition liners' or is it an mostly uncessary expense?
Any thoughts on weather cant wedges under the bingings, or sole grinding is best to counter supination?
Cheers
NJL
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You know it makes sense.
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njl1968, no worries! BTW my names work towards the southern park of the town.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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njl1968, nothing wrong with intuition liners but they aren't by any means necessary for everyone. they do seem to have attained the status of a religious cult amongst some skiers though
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