 Poster: A snowHead
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Hurtle, Well the question was how to pronounce the name of my home town. Since I say it and hear it and have done nearly everyday for many years, I feel best placed to say how it should sound. We are in the Oisans, so some 'correct' french pronounciation doesn't always work.
ccl, I can't see any way in english to write deux - it's deu but not dee we have no accents to denote a short sound (e) Only the scots roll the rs so der is closer than duh or doo or all the other efforts previously mentioned. The point is that it is derzz.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Four pages...do we have a correct answer yet?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| dr schuss wrote: |
| lay-derz-alp |
I'm sure we've all moved on from this.. but I would just like to confirm that Dr Schuss' phonetic description is correct.
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| pam w wrote: |
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no matter how badly that you think you're speaking French (within reason), the natives seem to respect you so much more for trying
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I wish that was inevitably true, but I have come to recognise that rise of the eyebrow and slight pursing of the lips which means "what the hell are you on about you daft old bat".
As for shortening things, Francoise (my super French teacher) is always trying to stop us sounding things out syllable by syllable. So not " je ne suis" but "jensuis". The other thing she bangs on about is how essential it is to use the subjunctive if you hope to sound even vaguely convincing. Whenever I can produce one, knowing it's correct, I always wish she could hear me! I was whiling away a journey in the car this morning, listening to a French Harry Potter story, and was surprised how many subjunctives I spotted - when I first heard the story I didn't spot any so my ear must be improving. |
'Set pat possibe sa' (Phonetic - obv) heard that yet? I bet you have... so had I, 20 years ago when I used it in my o levels to my great disadvantage!
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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You'll need to Register first of course.
You'll need to Register first of course.
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Libertine,
wrong..really should say "say pa poseeebluuuh ca, puetaingggg"...
but I have got a strong Toulouse/southern accent...
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| Kruisler wrote: |
Libertine,
wrong..really should say "say pa poseeebluuuh ca, puetaingggg"...
but I have got a strong Toulouse/southern accent...
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puutaaain sa mere - now that really is bad! Why do grown men AND women in france still say that?!
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You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
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Can French newsreaders say the Russian PM's name without sniggering?
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| laundryman wrote: |
| Can French newsreaders say the Russian PM's name without sniggering? |
Ha ha, never thought about that!
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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| paulcl wrote: |
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| easiski wrote: |
| .... Deux - french for two - usually pronounced der as near as you can write it.... |
Pronounced der?? (snip) There is no r sound in deux. Or was that a typo? |
More likely is that easiski has a non-rhotic accent and you, being Scottish (?), have a rhotic one (i.e. you sound your rs and she doesn't). So by "der" she means roughly the same as "duh". |
Well, maybe so, but it is simply confusing if you are making any sort of phonetic representation of a word to include letters that are not pronounced. If it's phonetic the reader expects to sound every letter. But here is another link to how words like deux are pronounced: better to listen than to interpret attempts to convey sounds in words!
http://www.languageguide.org/francais/grammar/pronunciation/vowels2.html
As a Scot I do of course roll my Rs but I have never seen easiski ski, and would, in any case, be far to much of a gentleman to pass comment on hers. 
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Les Deux Alpes isn't that hard to say if you have some basic French - the one I've never heard pronounced by any local is Sauze d'Oulx - now how do you say that one? So-z'dooh? Surely not what I was assured by one friend: "susie doo" - the same person tells me the resort near to Les Deux Alpes is "Alp jewy" to rhyme with chewy with the stress being on the "jew" bit. 
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You know it makes sense.
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Kruisler, but do you know what your name means in Iraqi Kurdish? No, I thought not. 
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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pam w, no I don't.... And I suspect I don't want to....
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Poster: A snowHead
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But that doesn't mean that pam_w shouldn't tell the rest of us.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I couldn't possibly.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I found that 'deux euros' and 'douze euros' sound, to the untrained ear, alarmingly similar!
Easier when it was francs.
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Tim Sawyer, not a practical problem - nothing costs deux euros.
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FAQ
, with a certain username which is very similar to an unflattering french "adjective/noun", and I can't help sniggering everytime I see it.. 
