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How do you pronounce " Les Deux Alpes"

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I heard someone on the radio pronouncing the "x"

I'm trying to learn French and thought it would be silent.
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Lay dooze alp, as the x precedes a vowel. If it preceded a consonant, it would be silent.
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I pronounce it with a "zzz" at the end more of less joining the deux and alpes. Doesn't mean it's right though.
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up4it, sounded like a 'z' when a vowel follows. It's a bit more flowing that way!
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up4it wrote:
I heard someone on the radio pronouncing the "x".


They should never have put the X Factor on the radio
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"lay duzz alp"

As per what laundryman says, silent consonants are pronounced if just before a word starting with a vowel..

E.g. Petit a petit (little by little) is "pety ta pety" rather than "pety a pety"...
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Shouldn't it be Le 'Doo' Alp though?
Pronouncing it 'Dooz' would make it "The 12 Alps" not "The 2 Alps"
*goes down under a hail of French vocab books*
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I was taught that the CaReFuLL consonants are the only ones that are pronounced, I forgot about the preceding a vowel bit.

The CD's I have are actually very good, there are endless similarities between the two languages, words ending ence, ance and tion are basically the same.

Appartantly the average bod only has a vocabulary of 600 - 1500 words so there is not that much to learn.

The guy on the CD reckons that over a 7 day period, the average number of written words in the New York Times is a shade over 700.

Should be a doddle shouldn't it.
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Kruisler, when did you last hear that pronounced otherwise than as p'ti ta p'ti? wink (God, I've been so good at controlling myself these last few months and here I am correcting a Frenchman's French pronunciation. Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed)

Richard_Sideways, I think that's what Kruisler was getting at when he wrote 'duzz'. Sounds a bit like 'duh'. wink
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lay deuz alpe (def not dooz)
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The place you can see from Alp Do Hez
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I would say it rhymes with 'furs'.


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Hurtle,

You're right about "duh" Very Happy

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Kruisler, when did you last hear that pronounced otherwise than as p'ti ta p'ti?


Ok OK...I was trying not to give the Academie Francaise an excuse for a fit by skipping the "e"...but you're right, nobody bothers with it.... Very Happy
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if only we could all read and write the phonetic alphabet wink

my two (euro) cents... lay der'zalp
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I stand corrected, and throw myself on the mercy of the court.
I should've paid more attention in French class after all, it IS useful, Forgive Mr.Town, Wherever you are!

Out of interest, if The 2 Alps is pronounced as "Le Douz Alp", how would The 12 Alps be pronounced? *Again, goes down under hail of vocab books*
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I said dooze, not dooze. Do try to listen wink
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laundryman, TallTone, No 'furs' is too 'open' as, indeed, is 'lay' - the vowel should be more like the 'e' in 'met.'

At the risk of repeating myself, remember what Prof Higgins said, in My Fair Lady - the French don't care what they say, so long as they pronounce it properly. Toofy Grin
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paulmck, Laughing Laughing Laughing
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lay-derz-alp
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but you have to move your lips if you want to sound french.
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I bought a helmet in L2A ... wink
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laundryman wrote:
up4it, sounded like a 'z' when a vowel follows. It's a bit more flowing that way!


It's called elision Smile (OK, I'll go crawl back under my rock)
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moffatross,

did you ask for un kak or un kassssk?
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Kruisler, that was on Ryanair.
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laundryman,

I feel like a fool already but nope...don't get it... I'm usually on your wave length vis-a-vis (pronounced vizavi) jokes and sensee of humour..

Puzzled

Unless you're referring to the toilet charge somehow? Confused

Toofy Grin
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Kruisler, yes, dialect word (mainly northern, I think) for sh-t. I think there are similar words in Dutch and German.

If you didn't have the right change on a Ryanair flight, you might kak your keks. Shocked
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laundryman,

I actually knew about "kak" and sh-t! d'oh..

my brain didn't get into gear.......
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Kruisler, J'en lui a demande pour un Kasssskk but the shop assistant was English so I guess he may have thought I was a lost priest.
laundryman, non, zat would haff bin a 'crepe' you wass sinking off Je crois. Smile
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zat would haff bin a 'crepe' you wass sinking off Smile


That reminds me of the Berlitz advert:


http://youtube.com/v/YsCR9Y4Ymvo

Smile
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eng_ch, bliss! Laughing Laughing
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lez ducks alpeees (the key to this pronunciation is of course LOUD and SLOWWW)

on chant ehh mon soor
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btw, cac is the Irish word for shite, though it is pronounced "cock"
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barry, chicken shite, le cac du coq sportif. Actually, I bet I can find a picture of that drawn by some cynical French artist. Shock)
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what's that joke about four sprung duck technique?? Laughing

nothin funnier than a Brit or a Paddy (or American for that matter) trying (and failing miserably) to converse in a continental tongue! But also very impressed by those who genuinely try, as for the most part will the locals be.

unos cerveza para mi burro por favor
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barry,

Comes from "cachi", the Welsh word for shite, the Irish are merely Welsh folk who learned to swim (not of course, to escape Wales) wink

Aneira
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but the hard part is to pronounce "Alpes" in that lovely French way. Different sort of "l" sound - further back on the palate and with a flatter tongue? Damned sexy. Maybe Kruisler could post some sound bites for us - is that possible on this site? Would be a great thing to play with.
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the Irish are merely Welsh folk who learned to swim



or learned to play rugby... NehNeh Razz Laughing
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pam w, wants to play with Kruisler's tongue? Shocked Just as long as she doesn't at the same time get any of that flatulence she was referring to elsewhere Shocked Shocked

OK, while we've got the pronunciation experts on hand. Alpe d'Huez, Saconnex, Oyonnax, Aix-en-Provence, Ax-les-Thermes: what do we do with those trailing consonants?
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I actually overheard a Brit refer to Tignes as Tig-ness, i.e. with a hard 'g' and 'nes' as in Loch Ness. Sometimes it's embarrassing being British...
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GrahamN, rolling eyes
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