 Poster: A snowHead
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Trip to Val Thorens booked for the end of March and looking forward to hitting the park there!!
I've narrowed my ski choice down to Salomon Suspects or K2 Extremes, I know there are prob better all round twin tips out there like the 4frnt MSP but budget is a factor and these 2 seem to get very good reviews for a reasonable priced ski.
Just looking for peoples opinions of the two and also if I go for the Suspects should I go 171 or 176?? Extremes would be 174.
(I'm, 82kg, 5'11'')
I'll ski pretty much whatever, confident on reds but will give tricky blacks, trees, pow etc a try if the conditions are good.
Loved skiing rental twin tips over the past few trips and have started getting more and more into trying park stuff.
All advice greatly appreciated.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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ca1der, Love the suspects great ski that will look after you everywhere and are very funky looking
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Extremes in a 179 no doubt, Or the Armada AR6 in a 176/181.
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I've heard alot of poeople complaining about the "Edge Armor" on this years Suspects, saying it is less that usless.
I'd go with the Extremes, a solid proven ski.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Btw are you open to other ski options? I would throw in the scott punisher/crusade, line prophet 90, and the armada arv, even the volkl bridge. All great all mountain twins which you can throw in the park. Line 90 is a little stiff for the park though. Would honestly go the AR6 route and get a 176 new for £245.
Arvs are sweet and come in a 175. 
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I had been put off the punishers by a few folk telling me they were less lively and fun than the suspects/extremes??
The AR6's look pretty cool, I'll look into them a bit more, what stores sell them in the Uk?? as I've only really came across them on US websites
with huge shipping costs.
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Ahh, skiied the Suspects at the Saalbach test last year and thought they were the worst ski I've ever been on, seriously I'd look elsewhere if I were you. The Extreme is also a tad heavy for dedicated park riding but out of the two I'd personally go for the K2. From what I remeber of the Suspects they seemed to have a decent enough shape but the problem was in the cheapness of Salomon's construction, cheap core, cheap base, cheap topsheet etc all made it ski with little to no pop, a really dead feeling ski. It does, however, have half decent graphics! I'm speaking personally of course but it's not as if I'm an inexperienced park rider! My own park ski of choice would be the Dynastar Big Troubles, Icelantic Da'Nollie, Line Blend, Movement Kamasutra, all solidly sonstructed skis with plenty of pop, edge grip (for a twin!) and feedback.
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OH BTW freeze scotland stock the ar6 but beware as one of my mates had some outrageous probs with them mounting each ski differently and they refused to give him a replacement until the skis had been sent back from france to Scotland then onto America to be inspected by the Armada group! How's that for customer service 
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Ok, by your description of your skiing you are looking for an all mountain twin tip, not a park jibber. The Extreme is better responsively than the Salomon, which feels stiffer but is not as well made- the K2 sidewall support underfoot makes it a snappy ski. The reality though is you will need a park specific ski if you really want to go railing and popping 720 grabs. I agree the Line Blend is a cracking park ski that is still fat enough for a bit of powder. The K2 will disappoint slightly in the park as its an all mountain twin and thus is a little heavy for the park.
I would go for the Line Prophet 90 as they are a top AM twin and lets face it, its quite likely that you wont be spending all your time in the park, but cruisijng around skiing as you say, pretty much everything. Not as fast turning as the K2 Extreme but super stable at spped and still a poppy fun ski.
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forgot to mention- bartletts ski have got Prophet 90s in 2007 and 2008 colours as well as 2009. Same ski every year, different graphic. The 2007 ones are only £245!! I got the 179 and stuck a Marker Griffon freeride binding on - £350 all in including mounting...... B A R G A I N. I know they have a 172 if you are looking for a smaller poppier ski. With Salomon s12s they were even cheaper £330 i think.
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The new blend is 100mm underfoot fyi.
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I've got the 2008 K2 Public enemys in a 179cm. They were last years extreme and i'm lead to believe that they're identical except with a different top-sheet.
I love them as an all mountain weapon. So much so that my salomon Aero X's only got out for one day of 8 in january in the 3 valleys. I'm not that much of a jibber so can't really testify to their park credentials but as a really fun ski to do it all i think they're awesome so i'd take the K2's.
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I've got the same as fastandicy and love them. Great at carving a line on the piste and have enough underfoot to be decent in the pow too. The only thing I would say is that the top sheet gets scratched up pretty easily. Doesn't affect the ski's performance though.
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