 Poster: A snowHead
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alrighty, new to the forum but have been lurking in the background for a while.
just a quick question i hope someone could clear up for me...
i've recently purchased a pair of k2 apache xplorers and i'm just setting them up just now, only thing is i'm not sure what din settings would be best for me, i'm roughly 6ft2", about 140kg's and my ski level is advanced i'd say(looking to start to dabble with more off piste this season, hence the xplorers) and my groomed run style would probable be described as an even mix of controlled and aggression.
so yeah, if anyone could help me out it would be marvellous, the bindings are marker mx12's.
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uktrailmonster, we need his BSL.
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I guessed it was >331 mm
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Hmm.
Mine gives 6 for that - I usually have it set at 6.5, but I did turn 50 a few weeks ago.
If I set the age to 10-49, it gives a setting of 7.
I fink a whole DIN point for a few weeks difference in age is a bit much 
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I'd opt for the lighter setting, try them out in the bumps and if you pop one crank up half a point. Much better than starting too high.
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| Scarpa wrote: |
| I'd opt for the lighter setting, try them out in the bumps and if you pop one crank up half a point. Much better than starting too high. |
I have always skied with them set to 6.5, apart from the frist couple of days on my very first trip, whenan idiot in the hire shop, even after having been told my weight, height and the fact I was a complete beginner, set them to 9!!!
Needless to say, I had a fall where they didn't come off, and damaged something in my knee (I believe it was the MCL), but fortunately not too badly, and a couple of months physio when I got back sorted it.
I've never had a pre-release at 6.5, but I've also never felt they stayed on longer than they should in a fall. I did tear a muscle in my calf last year, but I'm pretty sure the skis were already off before that happened.
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but on whos chart.... salomon binding should be set on a salomon chart marker bindings on a marker chart...i don't have either here, but there are differences in certain areas of the chart...back to the battle that DIN should be DIN should be DIN but isn't
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The website said 7 for me which is not far off what I have set at 5.5/6 depending on the ski. I should probably tighten up the 5.5 but I've not had a prerelease. I have had the boot twist out of the binding without the binding releasing from the ski which is annoying especially as it means the brakes stay up. That happened with my lightweight touring boots, not had the same problem (yet) with my new stiffer boots, hoping the new boots have fixed that. If it does start happenning not a lot I can do other than use a different binding - though that would mean going to a non-release non DIN binding, so I'll stick to my 7TMs for the moment.
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alex_heney, Yep, I've had an idiot set mine to 9.5 based on his published system of dividing a skier's weight in Kilograms by 10.
9 months of Achilles rehab taught me different 
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I demo'd some twin tips at the EOSB a couple of years ago and as I usually skied at 6.5 I asked for them to be set to 7. I then took off from the first jump in the park and popped out of both skis upon landing  The intended use of the ski does change the setting requirements a fair bit.
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You know it makes sense.
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IncogSkiSno, boot sole length.
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Cheers for the help guys, i appreciate it. to clear everything else up i'm 22 and the bsl according to the boots(salomon) is 30.5, however when setting up the bindings they ended up being 335 on the binding. i'd say i'm unsure if this is right but quite frankly the boots wouldn't fit in the bindings at anything shorter so it must be accurate.
i tried it with my skier type at 2 and 3 and it delivered in at either 6.5 and 8 consecutively. i'm thinking i'll probably be more likely to be an 8 seeing as the last weeks skiing i done on my old ski's i only came off my ski's once that i remember.
i think the best bet would to be to just take a screwdriver out with me when i get my first run on them and adjust as i ride.
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Poster: A snowHead
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| slikedges wrote: |
| IncogSkiSno, boot sole length. |
so does a shorter length mean a higher setting then ? 
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| IncogSkiSno wrote: |
| .......so does a shorter length mean a higher setting then ? |
IncogSkiSno, yep, a shorter boot would allow a higher setting when compared to someone else who's stats were identical other than having than a longer boot. The longer boot puts more turning force/torque into the lower leg/knee than a shorter boot.
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| Masque wrote: |
| alex_heney, Yep, I've had an idiot set mine to 9.5 based on his published system of dividing a skier's weight in Kilograms by 10...... |
That's the usual guide for skiers who are competant & aggressive all mountian skiers (type 3/3+) who are requiring higher retention but in the majority of cases it will mean settings higher than their chart setting. Racers tend to use a guide of their weight in stones equals their din setting. Both these guidelines should only be used by experienced skiers who fully understand the implications of their actions.
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MattMattMatt, Boot sole length is measured in mm. There are various descriptions used to designate length, size etc, it's easy to get confused by them all.
Last edited by You need to Login to know who's really who. on Sat 21-02-09 19:44; edited 1 time in total
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| MattMattMatt wrote: |
Cheers for the help guys, i appreciate it. to clear everything else up i'm 22 and the bsl according to the boots(salomon) is 30.5, however when setting up the bindings they ended up being 335 on the binding. i'd say i'm unsure if this is right but quite frankly the boots wouldn't fit in the bindings at anything shorter so it must be accurate.
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BSL in mm will be on the side of the boot shell (moulded into the shell itself). 335 mm sounds about right if you've got size 10+ feet. 30.5 is probably their mondo size, which is not the same thing as BSL.
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IncogSkiSno, What length should I use? Is width an issue? I already wax 'em within an inch of their lives 
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