 Poster: A snowHead
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Im currently studying product design in the UK.
Im researching a brief which may interests all you fans of the snow.... It is entitled "eye protection within sports". Obviously, snowboard and ski enthusiasts were my immediate thoughts as i know that most of you wear some type of goggle or shades as protection from both the sun and powder (and also because they look really cool!)
What do you like about your goggles? What makes them personal to you? Is there anything different you'd consider when buying "eye protection"?
Im not gunna leave it all up to you, a few of my initial ideas are listed below. Some also apply to other sports.
Folding glasses/goggles
Storage for goggles
alternative means of cleaning the lense (squeegie/windscreen wiper lens?)
Recording rides via Goggle camera
Lights incorporated into the goggles
Heads up information
Elasticated strap to hold on sunglasses
Cross breed of sunglasses/goggles
Music in goggles/shades
Id just like to know what you all think....the more thoughts the better, all criticism is good....
Cheers guys
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Eyesight correction incorporated in the lens rather than as an insert
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| danindustrial wrote: |
Folding glasses/goggles
Storage for goggles
alternative means of cleaning the lense (squeegie/windscreen wiper lens?)
Recording rides via Goggle camera
Lights incorporated into the goggles
Heads up information
Elasticated strap to hold on sunglasses
Cross breed of sunglasses/goggles
Music in goggles/shades |
I think there are examples of all of those on the market already. What I'd really be interested in was some kind of new light/contrast intensifying product aimed at the retail market which would radically improve seeing conditions in flat light and whiteouts.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Some sort of anti-scratch coating for mirrored lenses. My Electrics looked soooo good untill they got a few wee scratches.
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Lens Colour
I have one pair of goggles and bought what was supposedly a general purpose lens colour (amber). There are so many colours of lenses for sale I still don't fully understand the purpose of all of them. You can buy goggles with 3 or 4 interchangeable lenses but that's darned fiddly with frozen fingers. What would I want? To be able to have just one pair, where the lens that could, by some mechanism (auto or manual if it was easily operated), be easily altered to take account of different lighting conditions, eg dull, bright, flat light. I haven't noticed very many "reactolite" type goggles about, so maybe they are not the answer.
Self-Cleaning
If this is a wish list, I'd also incorporate self-cleaning nanotechnology. Titania (TiO2) is photocatalytic - in the presence of light organic deposits and bacteria are broken down. Titania is also superhydrophilic, so water spreads out forming a very thin "sheet" rather than sitting as the tiny droplets that cause fogging. This sheet of water carries away the dirt broken down by the photocatalytic action. The down side? Cost. I am not sure if this technology has yet been used on plastics or only on glass.
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Goggles that genuinely do not fog up
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| Butterfly wrote: |
Lens Colour
To be able to have just one pair, where the lens that could, by some mechanism (auto or manual if it was easily operated), be easily altered to take account of different lighting conditions, eg dull, bright, flat light. |
That was my first thought... A goggle lens that would react to light conditions and alter its shade/contrast to provide the best tint for those conditions... The rest is pretty much gimmicks IMO.
They are already plenty of durable and comfortable goggles om the market... Most of them will aslo fit helmets nowadays..
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Great stuff guys, some really good comments!
The stuff about the lenses is interesting, especially the interchagable idea. So the idea would be....that with some kind of user action, it would be popular to change this?.....i like
Any thoughts on the "recording via camera?" as mountain bikers have expressed the need for such technology....Is this the case for you guys? Obviously it would need to look cool and less clumbersome...! Are helmet cams popular? do you see any advantages of a camera in the goggles/shades?
Do you guys ever record rides/sessions? Anyone ever serious about making boarding movies of themselves/mates?
Ace feedback people.....thanks
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| danindustrial wrote: |
Im currently studying product design in the UK.
Im researching a brief which may interests all you fans of the snow.... It is entitled "eye protection within sports". Obviously, snowboard and ski enthusiasts were my immediate thoughts as i know that most of you wear some type of goggle or shades as protection from both the sun and powder (and also because they look really cool!) |
Maybe I'm in the minority but I wear goggles to help me see when skiing. I don't imagine goggles could ever make me or anyone look cool, unless I missed the snaps of Kate Moss falling out of a bar at 2am wearing Jimmy Choo's and A-frames. 
For me, automatic change of filter to adapt to different light conditions would be top priority, so I only need one set of eye protection (my default choice is sunnies, except when light/snow conditions dictate otherwise). Like reactolite, only one that works.
Second, a warning system to detect other snow users moving at great velocity in my direction, but far away enough to avoid them rather than just brace for impact.
Third, a way to locate skis if I have a premature release (ahem) in powder. Like a radar system - look left, look up, look right... dig!
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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| danindustrial wrote: |
Great stuff guys, some really good comments!
The stuff about the lenses is interesting, especially the interchagable idea. So the idea would be....that with some kind of user action, it would be popular to change this?.....i like
Any thoughts on the "recording via camera?" as mountain bikers have expressed the need for such technology....Is this the case for you guys? Obviously it would need to look cool and less clumbersome...! Are helmet cams popular? do you see any advantages of a camera in the goggles/shades?
Do you guys ever record rides/sessions? Anyone ever serious about making boarding movies of themselves/mates?
Ace feedback people.....thanks |
The camera thing has been done to death. Loads of helmet cams come with mounts/clips which can attach to goggle straps etc.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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yeah auto adjust lenses for light and contrast, would be ideal...also HUD display projection would be ace...speed, direction alti...rear view etc.
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| sps89 wrote: |
| The camera thing has been done to death. Loads of helmet cams come with mounts/clips which can attach to goggle straps etc. |
Done to death it may have been but I'm yet to find a system that works well, they mostly flop around on the straps, wobble on the helmet or just end up pointing in some random direction.
On that front I'd like to see either a built in lens mounted front and centre or a flat area for a clip at the side - couple that with a goggle lens mounted Newton Ring sight (like skydiving cameramen use) and you'd know exactly where the camera was pointing all the time.
Gimmicky though.
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You know it makes sense.
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You could use a ring sight but that could potentially have unplesant consequenses in a faceplant situation, Now if it were me and I had access to the required materials/technology, I'd build a decent quality lens with a small zoom range into the goggles ideally locating the lens above the nose, then I'd incorperate electro luminescent material into the goggle lens, so that when the camera is on a variable sized ring would appear on the lens itself showing the viewable area
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Scratch resistant lens.
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Poster: A snowHead
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| FenlandSkier wrote: |
| On that front I'd like to see either a built in lens mounted front and centre or a flat area for a clip at the side - couple that with a goggle lens mounted Newton Ring sight (like skydiving cameramen use) and you'd know exactly where the camera was pointing all the time. |
Something like this but for skiing rather than scuba.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Small proximity camera facing backwards that flashes a warning light as someone comes within 20 metres of you.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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To be honest I think that a helmet mounted cam is better. It would be easier to improve the fixture of your helmet camera than design a camera that is an integral part of goggles. Also if you wanted to change your goggles for any reason you'd have to change the camera too (or buy goggles from a limited range that are compatible).
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I think the killer app is the flat light contrast intensifier.
The heated element (running off no more than a single AAA battery) might vbe good too though I think thats been done.
Sweat dispersing foam might be pleasant but not essential.
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