 Poster: A snowHead
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first pair of shiny new boots: two days in and snug as a bug until about six hours in each day, when I get numb / cramp on two middle toes on right foot, pain spreading to bit just below
okay again within minutes of taking them off
anyone got anz ideas how I can fix - ? stretches/ buckles done up wrong / just getting numb with cold (though itäs not too cold here) - change footbeds to flatter ones that came with the boots or find a bootfitter?
thanks..
(new boots rather than foots  long day)
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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awol, You may be clenching your toes in an attempt to gain contol as your mucles tire.
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awol, I get this too towards the end of the day. The cramp is excruciating and the only way to take the pain away is to take the boot off, which is crap if you are on the hill. I usually take it as an indication to stop for the day. I have tried to not do my boots up a bit less ferociously this trip and that helped. A physio colleague of mine suggested that it is down to having restricted blood supply to a structure which is usually flexing and stretching at each step. You clamp it in a boot, then reduce its flexion and ultimately will end up with lactate build up, hence the cramp. That made sense to me. Scarpa's comment about clenching the toes also makes sense.
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Exercising/stretching my feet/calves/ankles before putting on the boots in the morning helps me quite a lot, I see it as part of my warm up routine. After all, feet are not meant to being locked up in a fixed position all day long. if you need some more height for your toes then a bootfitter can shave down the footbed or the board on which the inner boot sits. Also, loosening some of the buckles whilst lifting can increase blood supply to the affected areas.
Don't forget that these are very new boots and the liner will need a few more days to be broken in...so maybe you can wait a bit longer with any irreversible boot adjusments.
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Assuming you've got a 4 buckle boot how tight are the bottom 2 buckles?
I was told that they should be just tight enough that a slight bit of pressure applied with one finger can open and close them - definately not so tight that you need both hands to snap them shut.
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thanks,
think you're all hit the nail on the head: I was at the very edge of my comfort zone in the afternoon on the first two days so was probably tensing my toes waz too much. Actually woke up 3am with another session of cramp last night (and did a fair bit of calf stretching). But sted of lunch break I had a mid morning stop and tea break today and was ok till the last lift. An instructor also suggested mid afternoon drink so if I suffer again Ill try stopping for a mini gluwein and loosening the boots.
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awol, Let us know how you get on.
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awol, When you stop for lunch or refreshment, just loosen the boots completely, even take them off, and exercise the toes.
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| awol, You may be clenching your toes in an attempt to gain contol as your mucles tire. |
I do that. Like a crow hanging onto a wire.
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strangely enough I found I was doing it for the 1st hour of skiing............. then a friend had a few stern words with me and all is well!!
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awol, Make sure that your footbeds actually fit in the shell. Try taking out the liner, remove the footbed from the liner and put it in the shell by itself. If you find any places where it is touching the shell then you might try trimming small amounts off the footbed.
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You know it makes sense.
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I do that. Like a crow hanging onto a wire.
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Probably not on enough brufen paulio, 
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An instructor also suggested mid afternoon drink so if I suffer again Ill try stopping for a mini gluwein
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He was probably thinking you might be getting dehydrated - so possibly have a big glass of water with the gluhwein!
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Poster: A snowHead
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pam w, Yes. Less dehyrdating!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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awol, I did an exercise with an instructor last season; ski with unclipped boots! It was very odd, but showed it could be done. The real benefit was to illustrate that I needn't tighten the boots as much as possible; just go with whatever felt comfortable 
Oh and the other thing that I find helps, is to take your boots off when you stop for lunch. (Quiet all those who don't stop for lunch!)
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I went to a restaurant on a very cold day in Areches Beaufort one day to find a big wicker basket full of slipper things, next to the fire, so you could take boots off and walk around without getting feet wet. They also had hangers for jackets, on wires above the fire. Very civilized. And the French onion soup was good, too. It was so cold we did two runs, then in for a drink, all day!
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