 Poster: A snowHead
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I add this with trepidation...
Can one replace bootliners if one is more than happy with the shell?
Stands back... 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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and how would one know when liners need replacing?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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MarjMJ,
Yes you definitely can. It's not a silly question but a good one because why pay for new boots if it's only the liners that need replacing.
There are a couple of other threads on this including one I started earlier today about "Remoulding Boot Liners".
Snow & Rock sell Zip Fit, however they're not cheap.
Our friendly Snowhead professionals will probably be along soon with more advice.
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MarjMJ, I have a pair of Zipfits in my Langes. Bought from CEM. Not cheap, but cheaper than a new pair of boots !
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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MarjMJ, couple of options some cheaper than others
1 intuition, thermo form liner offers great warmth and comfort ~C~ £100
2 Zipfit liner warm, comfort and performance and can be moved to another shell when the time comes ~C~£180
3 PU foam injection, high performance can be cold depending on the foot ~C~ £160 & £200
all depends on the foot and the boot, i have all the above in stock with the exception of the PU foam whcih i cna order in if required
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Thanks all so far - it was the remolding thing that made me ask welshflyer, !
Higs,
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and how would one know when liners need replacing
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Hypothetical question. Possibly the next one!
Thanks CEM. I have a prescription orthotic [overpronation, pes pancake...  ] which meant I didn't get my Nordica linings heat moulded though I could have had that done [the pod said it would destroy the FO]. Please don't tear your hair out at that one!
This is possibly a second question - how can I get linings heat moulded when it will kill the thing that means I don't get plantar fasciitis.
And while I am on this, I find that as the ski week progresses I have to progressively readjust clips. I guess this is down to plastic pliability, the liners heating and cooling and leg tissues getting compressed. Am I right?
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adjusting the clips sounds as though the liners are packing down as the week progresses
as for heat moulding the liner...no problem heat the liner then put the orthotic in then wear until cool, most shops heat the liner sin the shells then put your foot in, if you heat the liner either in or out the shel then add the footbed /orthotic then there should be no damage whatsoever, if that amount of heat does do damage than it is a pretty poor orthotic [putting the orthotic in the boot then heating it for 15mins WILL DESTROY pretty much anything other than a full carbon graphite device]
how well does your orthotic fit into the boot, did you upsize the boot to get the orthotic in, if so that may be some of the reason you are adjusting the clips so much as the week goes on
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CEM, had no need to upsize the boots as the FO fits in snugly OK. I've had both the boots and FO for a few years, and am more than aware should have replaced FO ages ago, but you know how it goes...  Could it be the liners have had their day? And if I buy new liners, could I expect my local shop to heat mould them [given that it was so long ago that I bought the boots and don't have the receipts...]
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the new liners would be an aftermarket product as you cannot generally get the stock liner for old boots, based on that whoever sells you the liner would heat fit it
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CEM, fine. Thanks for this advice.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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CEM, interested that the Zipfit liner can be moved to another shell, as I was wondering about that. I think my shells are OK for the moment - you fitted some extra padding in round the ankle which did a good job of preventing the heel lift which was bothering me. but for the first time when I was skiing today I was wondering if the whole liner had now packed down too much (I have skied the best part of two seasons in the boots, but the shells don't seem to have any problem). It might just have been my rotten skiing though (I was trying to get same angle of edge on both skis and having some trouble, foot seemed a bit loose). Will try thicker socks tomorrow!
but if a zipfit liner would fit into a new shell, when I new one, might be worth thinking about in February, when we are at home.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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So which is warmer do we think, Intuition or Zipfit?
Joe
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TangoFiver, intuition is definately warmer, in fact it is about the warmest liner on the market
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You know it makes sense.
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Is there any difference in the expected life of Intuition and Zip Fit?
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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the zip fit will last 400+ skier days the intuition probably about 120ish [similar to a standard liner]
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Poster: A snowHead
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How do you know when the shells need replacing?
I have just been advised that boots only last 5-7 years (no matter how often you ski on them). Is this correct? I've had my Salomons for about 10 years, and admittedly they are no where near as comfortable as they used to be. Do I need to shell out (no pun intended) on a complete new pair?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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