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Can any recommend a good pair of gloves with wrist guards combined? I couldn't get my gloves on over a normal pair of wrist guards.
I had a wee shot of snowboarding at Xmas so I want to get more involved but couldn't get the wrist guards on so didn't want to push my luck!
First time snowboarding and spent a fair bit on learning to ski so if anyone has an old pair they want rid of let me know!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I got some of those Level 'biomexx' (or whatever it's called) ones. Partially because I always get really cold hands and decided to have a go at spending more than a fiver on gloves this time (these are £75), and partially due to taking up boarding.
No complaints.
Although you do realise that the purpose of wrist guards is not actually to prevent breakage, rather to ensure that the breakage happens further up your arm, don't you.
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i've heard a few of those arguments, yes. I just aim to fall on my back bottom as much as possible as it's pretty well padded.
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These are what you want http://www.alpsgear.co.uk/Snow-Sports/Flexmeter-Gloves
The best wrist guard you can buy built into a decent glove at competative prices with Levels etc...
Edited to the link with all the gloves on it
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queen_sheba wrote: |
i've heard a few of those arguments, yes. I just aim to fall on my back bottom as much as possible as it's pretty well padded. |
I usually manage to break my fall with my testicles.
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level biomex for me. ebay for £17.00 - used once.
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& what were they used for
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Flexmeter; And paulio, I think you are talking rubbish.
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I went to visit the International Bureau of Weights And Measures recently, and it was a fascinating experience. Amongst other things I learned that the SI unit for 'self important haughty sneering' is known as a Lizzard.
For those of you who still think in imperial, fret not! 1 lZ is approximately equivalent to 9.4 Rantzens, meaning you can safely round up to ten without losing any significant amount of precision, unless dealing with quite large quantities.
For example when attempting to measure the post below this one.
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paulio, if you care to re-read Dr Langram's website, you will see that not only is there no suggestion whatsoever that guards are actually designed to cause a break further up the arm, but he actually questions whether or not this happens at all.
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Lizzard, there is also a very interesting advert for the purchase of wrist guards at the bottom too
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The real tragedy here is that I've written a post as funny as that one, that nobody will ever read, since it's in the snowboarding forum, which skiers don't read, and snowboarders - generally speaking - can't read.
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You know it makes sense.
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LOL at Paulio.
I saw a nice pair of long gloves, with built in splints, in the O'Neil store at Bluewater. In the end I decided against them (they were £50 but the gloves looked excellent) as I was worried the splints would get on my nerves. You could take the splints out, but then are left with an expensive pair of gauntlets.
Rather than an arm break, I would thing you could more easily break the bones in your hand, where the lower ends of the splints rest on the back of your hand.
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paulio, the skiers are laughing at you and not with you
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Poster: A snowHead
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So long as others are happy, I'm happy.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I did also think getting up after doing up yer back binding (45 minutes for us non Flow users) would be very tricky with wrist guards.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I used guards for my first few years riding and thought they're great. I've always recommended them to other learners i've know.
With ref. to the whole breaking your wrist/arm etc, if you're falling with that much energy you're probably going to break something somewhere.
I've been of the opinion that they're there to prevent bruising from more minor spills. they take the brunt of the fall when you forget to tuck you're arms in and instinct takes over.
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I've had two pairs of Level, I'd really rate them. Started with gloves but because I get cold hands I've now got the mittens. The wrist protectors have saved my wrists on a few occasions. I like that you can take them apart too which you can't with all brands. As can also be said of my helmet. Had a massive crash catching an edge on ice & flipped into the air landing on my head going backwards down the slope... whiplash & mild concussion 2 years ago... was 'undecided' until that point, now I won't go without one - I would have certainly been worse.
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I struggle to understand why any one when falling would want to put their arms out and maybe this explains it a bit ........
a mate just came back from a ski holiday where his missus hurt her leg on the first day, was stretchered off the mountain and was unable to ski for the week, so he decided to have a few days learning to board (he had done the odd day before), as part of his lessons he was taught to fall with his arms tucked in, and said he found it easy because he played rugby as a lad and because of this he had no urge/reflex action to put his hands out; in essence when playing rugby you 'learn to fall' because you are holding the ball and sticking your arms out will simply mean that you will drop the ball; I also have played rugby and when I fall it seems the instinct to 'wrap up' clicks in.
Any protection is probably a good idea - helmet/padding/back protection/wrist guards etc., but whether you wear wrist guards or not the best safety tool is to learn to fall properly
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rayscoops wrote: |
Any protection is probably a good idea - helmet/padding/back protection/wrist guards etc., but whether you wear wrist guards or not the best safety tool is to learn to fall properly |
Nice idea in theory, try catching an edge strapped firmly into a snowboard and you're flipped either backwards or forwards faster than you can say 'wrist guard'. The automatic response is to put your hands out.... especially if it's your front edge at speed. If your freind did it then well done, I'm not sure it's that easy, maybe at slow speeds when you're learning on the nursery slopes... most of my accidents have been quite fast and I've not had time to apply that much thought....
I'm sure I've read that boarders and skiers tend to fall slightly differently, I suspect not being strapped firmly in by your feet has something to do with it, if you don't put your hands out then next thing to hit is your face.... Mind you, in some cases that might be a bonus.
For the cost of a few extra quid and knowing that it's an auto response to put your hands out if you're falling then I don't see why not pay the money and have the extra protection...
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rayscoops wrote: |
i will of course break a wrist next weekend in Innsbruck |
no chance of that
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nigel b, when are you arriving out there?
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rayscoops wrote: |
I guess you have not played rugby ? ;-)
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Not when snowboarding.... lol
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rayscoops is on the money - learning to fall properly is an important skill. I was very impressed to see beginners being taught it at MK once. Otherwise I think flexmeter are the burliest though Da Kine used to be the most common.
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fatbob, my first ever introduction to boarding was two hours on the plastic, the first hour was mainly spent practicing falling on to my forearms on my front or falling onto my back in a 'hunched & rolling' manner, and I did not hurt my wrists or bang my head
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I broke my arm while learning to snowboard even though I was wearing wrist guards so I think the argument that they move the break up your arm might be right.
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You know it makes sense.
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hbdesmond wrote: |
I broke my arm while learning to snowboard even though I was wearing wrist guards so I think the argument that they move the break up your arm might be right. |
my son did too. Shattered both ulna and radius whilst wearing Level gloves with biomex guards. Not too much of a problem though as it was plated and had no problems with it since.
Daughter broke her wrist snowboarding without guards and still has problems with reduced flexibility and joint
stiffness.
Better to brake an arm than a wrist
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Probably better to break arm than wrist. There are also lots of irritatating ligaments in wrists that give easier than bones, and heal even less effectively... Although doctors don't seem to think of them quite as easily!
Don't think I'll be snowboarding ever - but might invest in some/a wrist guard for skiing if they don't get in the way as I've already got a stretched/weakened ligament in my wrist!
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I was also 'taught' how to fall 'properly' at MK when I had lessons.
Unfortunately being a mere mortal.... instinct, often overcomes theory.
Was just wondering.... Have the experts also re-trained their gag reflex in order to sucessfully suck each others' cocks?
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Honda Kitty, hahahahahahaha. Marvellous.
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