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I just trashed my beloved Burton P1 Md's, they were getting on a bit so not all bad. I ride a Burton Custom board and use Salomon F24 boots which are pretty stiff. What bindings are good options for general all mountain stuff - I don't ride park and comfort is at the top of the tree anlong with pretty good performance. I was looking at the Ride Spi's which look good value at around £120, anything else I should look at?? Cheers.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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avoid Flows 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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don't worry, I would rather ski than wear flows...
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I love flows and so does my warm ass.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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stab, since when ?
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just curious, but whats wrong with flows? been using them for years, and their great. Stiff as I need, never had a problem with them, and far quicker to get n and out then clicker straps!!
Am I missing something here??? 
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I think the worm has turned
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open away, and spill the beans then...
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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meadwak, There's nothing wrong with flows. Sure, they make you gay, but there's nothing wrong with that. 
Seriously, us "regular binding users" tend to scoff at flow users in the same way as skiiers do at boarders, but there's nothing actually wrong with them, they're just different.
I think there was some question over the reliability of the high back on some of the earlier ones - although I'm sure that's been sorted out now, the only other thing negative I can think of is that I've heard they can be difficult to get off if you stop in deep powder. On the plus side I believe they're quite comfy and they're a damn sight quicker to strap in to.
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ac505, Union bindings are supposed to be the dog's knob. TSA stock them but they are pretty expensive (c £200)
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You know it makes sense.
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I learned to board with flows and thought they were great...... then bought Burton P1 speedzone's and never looked back much more responsive, a can also do these up while moveing now so thats not an issue, also the flows can be more akward to get in and out of in some circumstances....horses for courses really tho its what you get used to..
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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We're having really good feedback on the Ride Spi's, Deltas and Alphas. Much more comfortable AND responsive than Burton bindings, and the 'cap strap' style toe strap is much more reliable than the Burton Cap Strap. For freestyle I'd recommend the Ride Delta, for a more freeride bias perhaps go with the Spi. They seem pretty good value as well.
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Poster: A snowHead
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NAKEDZOOKEEPER, You sound Poorly, very sick even.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I fought of the illness for as long as possible, but in such a hostile environment it was inevitable that some contamination would occur.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| NAKEDZOOKEEPER wrote: |
| We're having really good feedback on the Ride Spi's, Deltas and Alphas. Much more comfortable AND responsive than Burton bindings, and the 'cap strap' style toe strap is much more reliable than the Burton Cap Strap. For freestyle I'd recommend the Ride Delta, for a more freeride bias perhaps go with the Spi. They seem pretty good value as well. |
much as I hate to admit it the capstraps on my old customs were much better than the new split type on the co2, my left one comes off at least twice a day when riding, or landing a sketchy backside 180
I see a fair few broken ride bindings, kind of sucks because I dont carry spares for them.
Salomon code dark sound good on paper, I havent tried them yet but at least they beefed up their cap strap / toe strap thing this year. For the freeride monkey/piste carver thing salomon relay pro get my vote, for jibbing I dont like them, the base plate feels a little high off the board for my liking.
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| ronaldothefrog wrote: |
meadwak, There's nothing wrong with flows. Sure, they make you gay, but there's nothing wrong with that.
Seriously, us "regular binding users" tend to scoff at flow users in the same way as skiiers do at boarders, but there's nothing actually wrong with them, they're just different.
I think there was some question over the reliability of the high back on some of the earlier ones - although I'm sure that's been sorted out now, the only other thing negative I can think of is that I've heard they can be difficult to get off if you stop in deep powder. On the plus side I believe they're quite comfy and they're a damn sight quicker to strap in to. |
ahh, well, I counter the gay comment (!) with the fact I can be half way down the slope whilst the rest of the group are still tightening up their straps (however i don't generally do that, as I like to be nice and wait for them... ) 
fair enough tho. New and different stuff scares people. having used loads of different bindings before I brough my flows, I just appreciate the ease of getting into them. The do the job for me, althought being a slightly better boarder now than when i got them, maybe I would benefir from a different set of bings whcih were stiffer/softer etc.
Never had a prob with the high backs. can be a little tricky to get off in deep poweder, but in that case don't stop or fall ove rin deep powder and you'll be fine... First year I ever boarded (in Bulgaria), we finsihed the holiday going under the lift pylons and thats was 5-6ft of poweder. As we kept stopping, (not being all that good then), you'd sink down and have 3 ft of snow above you - trying getting into or out of any binding woudl be a struggle then...
In conclusion i dont feel so bad owning a pair now!!!! thansk for the info!
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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pair of Rome Targa's ordered today, thanks for the advice! Unfortunately no chance of getting the P1's repaired as Burton Austria no longer carry the ladder strap - I've bodged a repair so I can at least use them on my spare board.
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ac505, that's nonsense from burton. I just ordered 25 of each strap for burton bindings plus toe caps. Almost everything for 08/09 is out of stock with burton though, they really do have a shoddy marketing plan.
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Nidecker builds some quality freeride binders.
its easy to feel the quality when you compare nideckers to anything short of Cateks.
Ride buckles are a pain to release when they have tension on them.
i have a pair of Forum ATP pros that are a sweet freestyle binder.
ladders and buckles should be easy to find in any decent snowboard shop if you want to go the route of making Frankenstein bindings.
you are probably better off getting rid of the burtons, those things are trash for any serious boarder.
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hahaha nidecker, real swiss quality  worst bindings I ever owned, ever. I gave them away in the end for free.
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Stab, whic ladders did you get? Burton changed the design so the heel ladders specific to the P1 (no screw or bolt to hold them in) from the 03 era don't exist anymore - there could be half a chance of some shop having something lying about but not in Glasgow anyway.
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meadwak, now I know why you said the 'whats the problem mentioning flows on the forum' comment earlier
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Poster: A snowHead
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meadwak, I am upset .... all you boys have new boards this year !!!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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So no-one has any valid reason for not using Flows then...? That getting them off in deep powder thing isn't valid any more for any other than the entry-level bindings as I have noted elsewhere.
PS Ride Flows or be Welsh - not a difficult choice for me, rayscoops
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Shallimus, both for me, Flows/Welsh 'n proud
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| DebbiDoesSnow wrote: |
| meadwak, I am upset .... all you boys have new boards this year !!! |
on the other hand, you have a tried and tested board, whilst I have no idea how mine will perform (hopefully well of course). Its been i storage for over 4 months since I brought it, so it needs a good run anyway...
(I suspect the helmet camera might have some interesting shots on it, for the first day or so anyway)
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to avoid doing straps up after the lift, either sneak on the lift without undoing them(only on a 2 man though!)......or when you get off the lift simply(!) point yourself in the right direction and once you've exited the lift and start do them up as you slide go along! takes a bit of practice but easy once you've got the hang of it!!
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| Shallimus wrote: |
So no-one has any valid reason for not using Flows then...? That getting them off in deep powder thing isn't valid any more for any other than the entry-level bindings as I have noted elsewhere.
PS Ride Flows or be Welsh - not a difficult choice for me, rayscoops |
I've stayed away from this topic after voicing my opinion in the 'other' recent bindings/flows thread...but, here goes...I don't think there is a great problem with getting flow bindings off in powder what I do think there is a slight problem is with putting them on in powder.
Let me explain my one and only gripe with them. When about to put bindings on I clear them of any snow I then put my foot in and secure (whichever method). There is no issue on the piste but when in at the top of a slightly out the way spot in powder as you slide your foot in there is a chance (it does'nt always happen) that you will push snow in between my sole and bindings. If this happens I will have to take my foot out and clear it or ride on without maximum feel of the board (hence you have to clear it).
Have no problems with them and think they are an great binding set-up but for that reason I don't wear Flows. I have thought about a pair for the snowdomes for a while now!
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