 Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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A good way of saving beer money is to stop the British tradition of buying rounds of drinks. Drinking in rounds tends to make everybody drink faster and therefore more drinks and more cost. It would mean that you could drink at your own pace, sometimes you find the first two drinks dont touch the sides and you finish up waiting for people to finish their drink other times you just want to drink slowly but have to hurry up because some body else is wanting to buy their round. The French, Germans etc seem to drink ok without the need to buy rounds. It might also reduce the drunken Brit problem.
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| rich wrote: |
johnnyboy, thread title has the word debate in it. If you take out PJSki's posts where is the actual debate  |
the title conatined the word 'debate', the post asked for a 'survey', maybe OP could clarify what he wanted and change title if appropriate ?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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A pint of Desperdos (in a proper pint pot with a handle) with a hanfull of lemon slices thrown in - magic!
€8.50 White Pub Flaine
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Large beer here in Laax (half a litre which is more than a pint but the same volume everyone else is using for comparison?) is CHF 6.50
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Pils taste much better in small 0.3l or less tall glasses
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| eng_ch wrote: |
| Large beer here in Laax (half a litre which is more than a pint but the same volume everyone else is using for comparison?) is CHF 6.50 |
A pint is 568ml, slightly more than a half litre (500ml).
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Just got back fro St Johan/Tirol, 50cl beer euro 3.80, in the Grande Schopf, nice and cold served in a clean glass with a smile-what more could you want!! Spag bol 7.80 euro but thats another thread!
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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3.80 for 40 cl in Val Gardena and 4.50 for 50cl Weiss Beer... 7.80 for Spag Bol as well. That was weekend 12-15th December... My best was 3 euros last season in Saalbach for a 50cl bottle of beer in some hut. We zoomed in fast when we saw that sign..... Austria has to be the best.... What I have done is find cheaper accomadation and offset that saving towards the beer budget. We paid 40 euros B&B in Santa Cristina. 
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| telford_mike wrote: |
Back on topic (again)
Just got back home:
50cl draught beer CHF6.50
50cl bottled beer CHF5
Rocks Bar (one of the nicer places), Wengen.
CHF5 = £3.33 @ CHF1.5 / £ |
And those prices are pretty much the same on or off the hill over there.... Also on NY eve 
8 Euro for a pint is totally insane, in my view... With or without devaluation of the pound...
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You know it makes sense.
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8 Euro for a pint is totally insane, in my view... With or without devaluation of the pound...
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Yes that's exactly the point a few of us have been trying to make, but there are those who think you should just pay anything just beacuse 'you're on holiday' and 'you can afford it anyway' - never heard so much tosh in the whole of 2008, let's hope for more sensible contribututions in 2009.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Tigne, some restaurant in tigne le lac near the bowling alley.
€8 for 50cl Kroenenbourg - This was about 3-4years ago, I nearly fainted.
All the moaning about starving children is a bit silly really. Yes we are extremely lucky in comparison to them and yes its a couple of hundred quid extra this year etc etc etc. But I think all snowheads will agree our main gripe is why does it cost SO much to eat out or drink out in a ski resort than the rest of the country, why must we pay up to double what it is in the rest of the country because we are skiing?!
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Poster: A snowHead
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anotherproblem,
1. You are up a mountain and overheads are higher.
2. You are prepared to do so (or have been up to now at any rate).
If you stop paying the prices asked, things will change. This might mean a drop in prices, a change to what's on offer, or places closing as owners go out of business or decide that it's time to shut up shop and move on.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Lizzard, The overhead bit also applies to resorts in Switzerland and Austria.
Its all in #2, people pay it.
masmith, I will definetly not pay those prices when in france in 3 weeks. And i'm on the 'really should go budget skiing in Scotland' side of the pond (that is eurozone)...
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Been paying anything from 5chf - 7chfs here in Zermatt this week, depending on where you were drinking.
Last year in Saalbach, was paying E2.50 - E3.40 both in town and on the hill.
The way things are going I'll not be skiing anywhere but Austria., altho Zermatt over xmas is well worth the extra.
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Eben, near Altenmarkt 20cl beer 2euro, o.5litre beer 3.10 euro in the umberella bar on the new Mount Popolo lift, which incidentally is great for families and so far empty compared to Flachau
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| Charlatanefc wrote: |
Been paying anything from 5chf - 7chfs here in Zermatt this week, depending on where you were drinking.
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I'd be surprised if anywhere in France, nee Europe, has higher overheads than Zermatt, so anything over and obove these prices is likely to be wee wee taking.
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| masmith wrote: |
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8 Euro for a pint is totally insane, in my view... With or without devaluation of the pound...
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Yes that's exactly the point a few of us have been trying to make, but there are those who think you should just pay anything just beacuse 'you're on holiday' and 'you can afford it anyway' - never heard so much tosh in the whole of 2008, let's hope for more sensible contribututions in 2009. |
Every business has the right to charge its customers the maximum it can get away with. Whichever way the price goes, the market will decide. But currently the market remains bloated with money. So essentially people like you will be priced out of the market.
But nice to see that the usual argument put forward by the consumer, i.e. charge less, sell more, make more profit, has also been dragged out without any supporting evidence. Generally, when this model is applied it results in a much higher workload for the supplier. Right now these bar owners are making good money and not having to work too hard for it. And who can blame them for wanting to carry on like that for as long as possible? Well, a bunch of overpaid and under worked Brits, that's who.
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PJSki,
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overpaid and under worked Brits
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And you are....what, exactly?
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...not moaning about the price of beer.
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| PJSki wrote: |
| .......Every business has the right to charge its customers the maximum it can get away with. Whichever way the price goes, the market will decide. ......... |
Bit hard to argue with that. Bars are not run as charities - prices will be set at a price which makes the business viable. If prices are too high for the market, they will come down, if the overheads will permit it. If they won't the bar will close. Our part in the market is to go where we can afford to. In my case, no longer a big French resort. But I certainly don't complain about the prices. They are what they are.
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Every business has the right to charge its customers the maximum it can get away with
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Interested to know if this view is shared by the local Tourist Offices ?
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Ski Amade have stuck with an average price of €3.50 for 50cl.
All beers are the same price on a mountain and most of the other ski areas too...
Valley prices are normally a bit cheaper - often under €3 if you find a good bar / guest house.
Not gonna tell you who but.... one Austrian chappy is offering half-board accommodation for €28 per night! He says the accommodation is a bit old and will need work next year so he just wants to fill the beds!
I can't see how he is making a profit at this price but it is there if you look for it! 
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| masmith wrote: |
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Every business has the right to charge its customers the maximum it can get away with
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Interested to know if this view is shared by the local Tourist Offices ? |
Assuming that the Tourist Office wishes to uphold competition in accordance with European law, my guess is 'yes'. You wouldn't be suggesting a price-fixing cartel would you? 
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You know it makes sense.
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For those heading out to Meribel the following may be of use, gratefully provided to me by a 'local reporter' !
"a wide variation in drink prices. The Grand Cafe des Pistes (just over
the road from le Rond Point bar) is the cheapest during their happy hour
(3€ for a half litre of beer between 5 and 7pm). Most of the other bars
charge between 6 and 7 Euros for a half litre, with a slight discount
for happy hour prices (though some bars don't have happy hours, eg La
Taverne, Aux Petits Oignons). The Cactus Cafe and Lodge du Village (in
Meribel Village) are the next cheapest, with happy hour prices of 4€ and
5€ respectively. The bars such as the Ront Point charge a bit more (€5.5
during happy hour), but do offer great live bands (and hence a buzzing
atmosphere) so I guess you pay a bit more, but get more in return"
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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50cl beer prices in Arc 2000 last week :-
Whistlers euro 5.50
Crazy Fox euro 6.00
Bowling 5.50
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Poster: A snowHead
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Paradiski - In Plan Peisey, 50cl Jupiter in Chez Felix 5€, Flying Squirrel 12€ for 1.5ltr jug of Kronenbourg, the bar next to the Vanoise Express 5.40€ for 50cl. On the mountain in both the Les Arcs and La Plagne sides of Paradiski it was between 5€ and 6€ for 50cl everywhere we tried. Super U in Bourg 7.43€ for 24 x 25cl of "33". We didn't find anywhere trying to charge more than 6€ for beer, but one in the party was charged 5€ for a small bottle of water 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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$7.50 for a 'glass' of Ricards Red at Sunshine yesterday, was the same price last year iirc. Not measured it exactly but the glass seems to be about half a pint.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Just back from France last night.
We ended our trip in Grenoble, where we spent the night, and had a great day's skiing in Chamrousse. It had a great selection of runs, stunning scenery and a bargain €28 day ticket. I'd recommend it for anyone who's not been as it had everything, from open cruising on blues to reds through trees, to steep black bump runs.
Anyway, the point of my tale is that we visited an excellent pizza restaurant in Grenoble and I paid a bargain (at today's exchange rates at least) €10 for a "feu de bois" pizza, washed down with 25cl of Stella that cost €4.50! I must admit that when I read the price of the "pression bier" I had (naively) assumed it would be half a litre....
Can anyone beat £9 a pint?
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While folks are right, and overall an extra euro won't make a huge difference to our trip costs (moderate drinkers!), I kinda regard beer prices like the famous 'Big Mac index' - ie a proxy for other costs I'm likely to find in a ski area. I'm sure it's a crude measure, but it's something ... and I do like beer 
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found this topic very interesting (not the off topic bitching) the price of food and drink is a very important factor for us as we organise a group trip every year and we do like to socialise when we are on holiday. of course NOT as important as the snow quality but in these times of recession its good to know if you need to bring the visa card with you on a night out or just a 20-30 euro in the back pocket. even if you only get out 2-3 times the difference can make a big impact on the weeks bill.
in the last 10 years we have be to
soldeu andorra- 2.50- 4 euro tops
st johann austria 3-4 euro
westendorf " 3-4 euro
schladming " 3-5 euro
zell am see" 2.50-5 euro
serfaus " 3.50-7 euro
lanersbach " 2.50- 4 euro
lermoos " 3-4 euro
passo tonale italy 3-4 euro
selva italy 4-6 euro
as can be seen from my list we dont ski anywhere thats too expensive which is why we mostly go to austria. we find that if the price of drink is reasonable then other costs are often cheaper also ie food, ski hire etc. we have never been to france as from what we have heard and read on snowheads and elsewhere its a rip off in most resorts. also gather that swiitzerland can also be pricey. find this kind of info very useful as it very difficult to get any where. ie food and drink prices in resort.
can we get this forum going again please and get a resort list with prices sorted
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It's about £3.00 in Xscape, but I guess that doesnt really count as a resort.... or Alpine
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austin7, Less than that at Hemel IFIRC 
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was about 3.40-4 eruos in Lech/Serfaus this March for a 0.5L weissbier. And it tasted wonderful
BTW, how much is a pint in UK nowadays. I'll be there in October for a couple of weeks - do I need to start saving?
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For the people fussed about the price of a beer, I recommend that next time they ask for a "galopin"
or buy it in a supermarket.
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gortonator,
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BTW, how much is a pint in UK nowadays
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Pub prices towards £3.00 a pint in the provinces. 40p per pint in the supermarkets and the Government is continuing to blame pubs for binge drinking 
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