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Adaptive 2nd Discipline Course

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Right, so who's going to do this with me? Sondhofen, 2nd - 6th March. According to BASI website currently no one booked on this. I've not yet booked, but when i do want to be able to book my flights before the prices are sky high!

skimottaret? rob@rar? anyone?
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Where's Sondhofen? It' a season too soon for me unfortunately - Mountain Safety and Alpine Coach this season, 2nd discipline and one of teach or tech next season.
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FWIW adaptive is reckoned to be way toughest, but the most fulfilling, good luck.
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rob@rar, Germany, fly to Munich I think.

jbob, yes it's supposed to be physically tough but spoken with a few people who've done it and they said it's doable, and like you also said very rewarding.

Wayne, will just check my hols with work then get booked on!
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Right, I'm all booked up! First person to book on the course so no chance of booking accommodation or flights yet which is very frustrating. So come on Wayne, get you and your mates booked on!
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Am picking him up in zurich on Fri - so will speak to him them. Got Teach and O Piste next week (big stress at the mo) so will sort it out when I get back. Will deff do it though if these 2 go OK

Should be fun. Do you know what the minimum number is needed to run
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Wayne, they said 6. They also said they've cancelled one in Zermatt this autumn as not enough people on it, but in previous years they've been full. I'm hoping as there are only 2 course run per season it will fill up, particularly with people like you who are doing courses in Zermatt.

Good luck with the off piste, it's pretty straightforward as long as you're ok on map reading and ski safely. I've not done the Teach yet so be good to hear how you get on.
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will let you know - have read that book so many times!!!!!.
Been teaching skiing for ages, give me a group of any standard and I'll teach em.
BUT almost messed up the tech not on bumps or off piste or what you think would go wrong but the long rad turns - can't beleive I shagged em up so much, so same could happen on this, just do best a see wha happens. Too much stress.
Will PM you about the 2nd disp in 2 weeks.
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Wayne, a friend of mine, Kasper is on your Teach i think, good luck to you!!

beanie1, did BASI tell you 6 was minimum, they wouldnt give me a firm min number to run a course. 5 on my teach at moment and 4 on tech Evil or Very Mad Twisted Evil
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5 on my teach at moment and 4 on tech Evil or Very Mad Twisted Evil


good luck on both
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skimottaret, they said about 6.
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Wayne, by the sound of it you'll be fine on the teach. I'm a bit nervous about it, mainly as my experience is teaching beginners / intermediates and i've heard the teach is more about analysing and developing the skiing of your peers. So going on a lot of training courses yourself and working on your own skiing is probably as useful as lots of teaching experience, assuming as a grade 3 you've mainly been teaching lower end skiers.
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Been in basi for 15 years and have done 3 courses -training in 94, assess in 95 and ISIA tech this year so....OMG, not really sure what grade I am - they keep changeing it
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Wayne, that's quite a big gap, have you been teaching full time since then? If so you may have more experience than the trainer, ha ha! What made you decide to start doing courses again after a big gap?
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Basically was just happy to continue along and keep on doing the work but it's all changing, because within the next 2 years you will need to have ISIA to teach anywhere in Europe (cept on a dry slope or the like).
Trainers ha ha no way. Have skied with some trainers, they make me look like a 2nd weeker.
But must admit to being brill at falling face first into powder - took me ages to get that right Smile
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because within the next 2 years you will need to have ISIA to teach anywhere in Europe


where did you hear that Wayne, ?
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within the next 2 years you will need to have ISIA to teach anywhere in Europe


i've just checked this out, apparently not true. Could be some confusion with ISIA trying to introduce a higher qualification comparable to the Euro Group's top level?
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beanie1, sorry for the hijack... I think he may be referring to the pyramid 3 tier scheme as you say. I did hear however that ISIA will be sufficient for teaching in ski schools in any ISIA member country. The French and Austrians are threatening to pull out of ISIA if that is implemented..
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Don’t you mean Italy? It’s already possible to teach in Austria with well less than ISIA.

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I did hear however that ISIA will be sufficient for teaching in ski schools in any ISIA member country.


I can’t see it happening, the Eurogroup is so much better run that ISIA, they're pretty powerful.
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beanie1, your probably right and the Eurogroup has now organised as a ltd company so i think they will continue to call the shots. Just living in hope wink
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I'm still the only person booked on this course!! Come on people, get booked on.

rob@rar, you don't need your 200 hours before you do your second discipline, how about it?
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I am booking on monday - see you there
Is basi office open on mon ? -
if not, I'll book later, but will be doing it if it doesn't get cancelled.
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ooops is this the one in andora ??
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rob@rar, you don't need your 200 hours before you do your second discipline, how about it?


I'd like to, but unfortunately it's just not possible next season. Hope it goes ahead and you can report back on the course.
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Wayne, no Sondhofen. So far I'm the only person booked on it, but am told that's normal and a lot book at the last minute...
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where on earth is that
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Germany, you fly to Munich. Apparently the Army do a lot of training there. Hoping it will be pretty cheap.
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Wayne, so did your Zermatt courses go well?
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Ok - sorry can't do it - am working at the ski school then and got shed loads of private booked in already so can't cancel
So looks like I will go to Soldeu as no time till then (it's right at the end of march)
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Wayne, so did your Zermatt courses go well?


1 OK - pass
1 well shagged up (oh well will do it again) Sad (another shed load of cash I don't have)
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Wayne, curious about the teach, how did it go? any tips? i got mine in a fw weeks....
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Ha Ha - thats the one I messed up. The Off Piste was great fun though and not too much of a problem.
Basic problem with the teach is that I wasn't good enough. Bex ( the trainer ) was brill.
I did learn loads from the others on the course. But not enough to advise anyone.
I am doing some training with some Italian trainers ( the criteria is about the same) and then will have another go when they think I'm ready.
Been teaching for ages (passed 1st basi in 94) but for the teach course my level was not high enough. No-one elses fault so will just get more training.
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Wayne, oops Embarassed didnt mean to drag up the wrong one....
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No worries - I'm cool with it. Very Happy
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Wayne, if you dont mind me asking what bits tripped you up?...
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Wayne, bad luck. I'm guessing from what you said above that it was analysis of your contempories on the course? Which goes with what i've been told about high end ski courses being better preparation for this course than teaching.
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Which goes with what i've been told about high end ski courses being better preparation for this course than teaching.

Always done a lot of evening video feedback sessions with ski schools such as Snoworks. These sessions provide an opportunity to examine your own skiing and everyone else's in your group, discussing what you see. Extremely useful for developing a "good eye", but can be a depressing experience when you see how bad your skiing is! I try to sit in on as many video feedback sessions as I can now, even if I've not been videoed.
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I've read this thread with interest as I would like to gain experience in this area. However, when I look at the BASI web site it says
BASI wrote:
If you are considering attending a BASI Adaptive course it is essential that you already have acquired sufficient knowledge and experience of working with skiers with disabilities before applying.


I would have thought that, working with skiers with disabilities, it would be sensible to have some idea about what to do before you go out on the slope with them. Where can you pick up such experience? I presume with ski schools who specialise in these activities. Any suggestions where?
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