 Poster: A snowHead
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Guys, I want to buy skis.. Before I was skiing only on piste.. now wanna try off-piste. What skis you would recommend that will be good for groomed and powder skiing? kinda all mountain skis. I can't decide because there are many skis that have waist like 70 and are called all mountain (for example Rossignol Bandit b1) but isn't 70 too little for skiing in powder? What about skis that are "backcountry freestyle " will they be good? (its unlikely that I will use them in the park). But I also wonder will for example 124-92-114, be good for skiing on piste?
I appreciate your help. thanks
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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124-92-114 would be fine for skiing on piste provided you're prepared to accept they won't compete with a 65mm waisted slalom ski and work a bit harder to hold an edge on glazed east coast hardpack (guessing from your location).
Every ski is a compromise though.
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korok12, welcome to 
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korok12, Welcome to snowHeads, Eh!
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korok12, i'm also in a similar situation - i'd like to buy some skis for both piste and powder but not sure what to buy.
What is a good waist size for this sort of ski?
Cheers
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| korok12 wrote: |
| but isn't 70 too little for skiing in powder? |
Nope, but wider is generally easier. Also depends how heavy you are?
If you want them to be genuinely good on and off piste, then I would look at the 80-90 mm width range. There are dozens of good skis in this width range that are useful all-rounders.
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korok12, welcome to ! (Are we having a bit of a recruitment drive going in Ontario?)
Where do you normally ski? Out east or do you head west for your snow. Or even over here in Europe?
I'd suggest that anything much over 80mm underfoot is of little use on firm/hardpack piste unless you're a very good skier that can create some big angles. You can get away with more in the west and less in the east.
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| korok12 wrote: |
now I have Rossignol World cup 9x .. they are like 101/65/91 but never tried them yet... bought a used pair at the end of winter, was stupid mistake but still would like to try them too.
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The yellow ones? What colour is the plate? What bindings do you have on them?
Those are an -excellent- GS ski.
Keep them, especially if you have the yellow plates that look like a bridge with black inserts front and back that require FKS bindings. (I assume they have bindings on them?)
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| maybe I should keep them and buy powder skis . :D that would be a nice solution :D |
Yes, it would. If you weigh over 175lbs buying an "allmountain" ski that works well for both Ontario and Western CA is going to be harder and possibly even more expensive than finding a powder ski and keeping your 9Xs.
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I find my 92 waisted skis MUCH more fun on piste than my 65 waisted ones.
Movement Gladiators vs Salomon Equipe SC.
Personally I think the Gladiators like the speed more.
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I'm about to try Line Prophet 100s as a do-it-all type ski, but more powder biased. Already have a pair of Head IM82s and IM72s. Both are excellent piste skis (at least on soft pack) and the IM82s are strong off-piste too (183 cm long with 83 mm waist). But even the IM72s are fine in powder and I weigh 86 kg. All my skiing is out in BC Canada, so get to see plenty of snow. I rarely ski on icy hardpack, so I don't bother with more aggressive piste skis. But I've never felt the need to go for balls out powder skis either.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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korok12, much as I do like Toronto, I have to admit I'd be moving to Vancouver too... 
You should get away with that length for a GS-type ski. Having said that (and having a large pair of GS skis myself), I'd get rid of 'em and replace them with some slalom skis for Ontario... As that's probably not really an option, they're still definitely worth holding onto, I've always enjoyed skiing on Rossignols. Then just get a fatter pair for powder days. If you do that, you can get away with a slightly wider ski, as you'll still have another option for hard-pack days (nothing worse than trying to ski on sheet ice on 90mm+ skis).
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You know it makes sense.
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Ontrario sucks... there is a bunch of few "hills" where people go skiing
This winter I am going home to Easter Europe for 1 month and gonna skis there in Carpathians.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Poster: A snowHead
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yeah , I have original bindings on them.
ha ha ha funny video, esp. the end
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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you have off-piste in Ontario ?? 
in the end its up to , go out and demo, a few years ago I was skiing a 80mm and thought it was as fat as I would want on piste, but now I ski a 96mm on piste no problems (wouldn't say I am carving like a 80mm ski, but skiing fast and in control). The fatter the better for off, and the worse for on. so what can YOU handle ??
I find that in fatter skis, the stiffer they are the better for on-piste, but once again, that is just me.......
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I said, Ontario sucks. and we don't have off piste here... hahaha
but I said that I am going to ski in Carpathians (eastern europe) , and off piste skiing in possible there.
never tried fatter than 70mm.
good for YOU
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oh come on, thats cross country skiing
definitely not for me
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hmmm... where can you ski backcountry in toronto?
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fess forget about TO, start at Hamilton and trace the Niagara Escarpment up through the peninsula.
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Ontario. lol But I would like to go to Whistler sometime.
