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Footbed/insoles question

 Poster: A snowHead
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Some boot-fitting advice required please.

Is it normal for the big toe to protrude slightly over the side of the insole of a ski boot when standing on the insole placed on the floor? This was the case for me yesterday when being fitted up but the guy told me it was normal and that my foot would be squashed slightly laterally inside the boot so that the big toe doesn't overhang. The problem was it felt like I was stepping on the edge of the insole and when feeling inside the boot with the hand there was a definite gap between the edge of the insole and the liner just where the big toe is.

The boots were Nordica Speedmachine 8's.

Many thanks.

Rgds Martin
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I'm sure an expert will be along later but IME the most important bits of the insole are the built up bits i.e. the heel cup & arch support not the fale bit under the toes so sounds like you'd be fine.
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martin, it all depends on the fit of the boot, the liners in most boots are a little short for the shell and as such need to stretch out for your feet, therefore if they used the stock insole from the boot to trace for the footbed then it will fit in the lienr in its original state not twhen it has been moulded and skiied for a little...there are a couple of things that may help. the foot will be compresses slightly in the toe box of the boot but all in all it sounds like they may have trimmed them too short in that area [bare in mind that thee needs to be a little movement front to back to stop the footbed jamming on the foot]

feather the edge of the footbed with a bevel so that you do not feel the step off the edge, or depending on the insole they can be heated and stretched slightly to fill the void
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CEM, My custom footbeds have done five weeks skiing over three years, they still seems OK but is there a recommended shelf life?
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Thanks for the helpful replies guys. Could it be that the boots are a different shape to my feet? The widest part of the boot's insole seemed to be in the ball-of-the-foot area, but I just measured my feet and the widest part is at the toes. That is, my big toes flares out slightly rather than taper in.

Might there be some boots more suitable for me? I haven't bought the boots yet and am considering settling-up for the footbeds and getting some different ones. The lone fitter at this shop was totally rushed off his feet which I think was part of the problem dealing with three customers simultaneously at one point. He kept up good cheer throughout though.

Cheers Martin
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find a good fitting boot first, then get footbeds made for it.
there is nothing wrong with doing it either way, but you should be able to get a better price by buying both at the same time.

it is common (I think) for the footbed to be shorter than the boot length as you describe.

i just went and checked mine, my big toe overhangs by around 5-10mm.

JP, footbeds should last forever in theory. however, your foot arch is likely to change over time....
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also, different makes of boots fit different shaped feet. definitely try on as many different boots you can.
eg Salomon generally fit wider feet well, where as Lange fit skinny feet well.
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wbsr, thanks for checking your footbed. Mmm, perhaps my footbeds were normal. It was just that I was feeling the edge of them with my big toes. Not wanting to get too nerdish about this, my theory now is that it's because the footbed didn't butt up tight against the side of the liner where the big toe is. Cheers
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wbsr wrote:
also, different makes of boots fit different shaped feet. definitely try on as many different boots you can.
eg Salomon generally fit wider feet well, where as Lange fit skinny feet well.


if only it were that simple, Lange make multiple lasts from 92mm to 103mm salomon make from 95mm to 106mm other companies do similar
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That's kind Elizabeth B, thank you, though I'm not sure I really qualify yet. Hopefully with a new pair of boots I'll get the hang of it this season. And in the meantime I've been reading Mark Elling's book to get a bit of theory. How many times have I been given a tip on technique then had the next person completely contradict it. Cheers
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Go to a good boot fitter, get measured and take advice. All makers deploy lasts of different shape and volume.The biggest problem is the narow, low volume foot. Many high performance or race boots give the low volume but at the price of stiff forward flex, even with the modern adaptation to shaped skis [ softer forward flex].A stiff boot can be softened.See Colin in Bicester.
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