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Intermediate in Fernie BC. Looking for All Mountain ski.

 Poster: A snowHead
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Hey guys.

Im going to Fernie for a month starting on 28th December. Im looking to hire skis from 'a company' but need some advice.

Ive got around 3-4 weeks on snow in Europe and can ski red/blacks with 'some' confidence but skiing in Fernie may push that level a bit higher and i know ill be spending quite a bit of time off-piste by the end. I need some all mountain skis which can cope with Fernie powder (deep i hope) and off-piste conditions but arent a complete mess on piste as well. Basically a 50/50 ski, i dont really know how much time ill be on/off piste yet so im after versitility.

http://www.edge2edge.co.uk/freeride_ski_hire.html
The choices are above, they are all the same price so no need to bother there but i need to know if anyone has any specific opinions. Im looking at the Salomon x-wing tornado, Atomic crimsons and Scott Neo but i dont really know.

If it matters im 6'2" and about 85kg.

Thanks! Razz


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Are you not just as well off buying if you are there for a month?
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Lord

If you're hiring for a month would you not be best of buying them?
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dam... beaten by quick-draw!

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Another thought... if you are hiring for a month, why not try out different skis and then keep the one that you like best.
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arv wrote:
Are you not just as well off buying if you are there for a month?


Hey,

Ive thought about it, but the company im using i can get good skis and boots for only £140 for the 25 days im there.

Im not sure how much skiing ill be doing after this, maybe 1-2 weeks max per year so for now i need to save money and rent.

The skis and boots im looking at would probably cost £500+ so buy so id rather pay the £140 Smile Also if the boots arent comfortable they'll pay for me to rehire boots at the resort. Not bad.
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If you are skiing for a month sack it up and buy boots, get them properly fitted etc etc, if you are skiing every day for a month then rental boots won't do your skiing any favours. I would go Atomic Nomad Crimson for an all round type ski if I had the choice you mentioned.
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is the crimson not wider than the 79mm they say on the website? i thought it was about 85ish.

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shoogly need to be quicker next time;)
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Buy boots, go see Lindsay or Alex in the Guide's Hut on 2nd ave. Up to you on skis, but renting boots is a terrible idea. They'll last you long enough to make up rental costs in a few years, and they'll perform a million times better.
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DaveC wrote:
Buy boots, go see Lindsay or Alex in the Guide's Hut on 2nd ave. Up to you on skis, but renting boots is a terrible idea. They'll last you long enough to make up rental costs in a few years, and they'll perform a million times better.


Ill think about it so thanks alot for the advice. The company rent out 2009 Salomon Foil boot worth around £250 and it will cost me £40 for the 25 days im there. I KNOW long term it might save me money and a fitted boot will be more comfortable but im not sure i can afford it short term. Ill have a think Confused

Rather than a hiring vs buying debate can someone recommend a ski? Someone said Salomon Lord i think.
The link again:
http://www.edge2edge.co.uk/freeride_ski_hire.html

Thanks Smile
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sps89, I did if you read my first post.
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arv wrote:
sps89, I did if you read my first post.


Yes thank you.

Just looking for maybe a couple more opinions before ordering the skis. Smile
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I know you're not looking for a debate, but it really is worth emphasising (especially since you mentioned the price of the rented boot) - it's not just comfort, it's control and accuracy. Kind of like putting a Ferrari engine into a concrete mixer - doesn't matter how good the skis are if your boots aren't responsive enough.

Have a browse in the Equipment forum for the boot thread - you need the boots that fit your feet (they come in different shapes per brand), not high end ones. I'd rather ski on something I found in a dumpster with fitted boots than the top of the range ski and rental boots, especially in Fernie where there's difficult terrain.

Anyway, that aside, you'll find Scott Punishers easy to ski and capable, and I've heard good things about the Salomon Lord.
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Salomon Lord are great skis but for your time on snow I would go for the Tornado Ti good for a bit of everything and a little more forgiving than the lord.

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DaveC wrote:
I know you're not looking for a debate, but it really is worth emphasising (especially since you mentioned the price of the rented boot) - it's not just comfort, it's control and accuracy. Kind of like putting a Ferrari engine into a concrete mixer - doesn't matter how good the skis are if your boots aren't responsive enough.

Have a browse in the Equipment forum for the boot thread - you need the boots that fit your feet (they come in different shapes per brand), not high end ones. I'd rather ski on something I found in a dumpster with fitted boots than the top of the range ski and rental boots, especially in Fernie where there's difficult terrain.

Anyway, that aside, you'll find Scott Punishers easy to ski and capable, and I've heard good things about the Salomon Lord.


Thanks i really appreciate the advice alot from everyone.

Looks like i might rent the X-wing Tornado or Atomic Nomad and give in and buy some boots. Hoprefully get something not too expenisve!

Any other help welcomed Smile
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 Poster: A snowHead
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sps89, if you want to get into a bit of "off piste" as you put it forget about the tornados, they will be twitchy and sink like the titanic.. the nomads will give you a bit more float and be more stable at speed without the tip hooking up all the time.
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Sport Conrad have the Nomads for €230 with M11 bindings, have been looking at them lots Blush
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On the skis front, I'd go for Neos out of the ones you've listed. Skied Aztec Pros during my holidays in Fernie last winter and Scott's springy flex is great in Fernie Pow snowHead
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Ive decided on Salomon Lord skis.

Salomon say order them 10cm longer than you normally would but im thinking i might go for 175 rather than 185?

Any input, obviously 175 might be a little easieer but would a 185 be better in powder?
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I'd go 185 for sure, given they have rocker and you're quite tall and heavy enough for them.

BTW, drop me a PM if you're planning on taking any lessons in Fernie Very Happy
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DaveC wrote:
I'd go 185 for sure, given they have rocker and you're quite tall and heavy enough for them.

BTW, drop me a PM if you're planning on taking any lessons in Fernie Very Happy


Hey man, ive got 3 weeks of lessons already thanks!

Any local knowledge of Fernie you can give me? Where to eat or ski etc?

Thanks.
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Worth a try Very Happy

You'll learn the mountain pretty fast with your instructor, but personally I like the old side (Elk/Bear) more than the new side (Timber/White Pass). As for eating, the hill is a little limited - Kelseys is nice for lunch, try the nachos at the Griz too. In town there's the place next to the Central (it was called Corner Pocket), and the Curry Bowl just off the highway is excellent, but otherwise my eating out is a bit limited as a poor seasonaire Smile
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hey, be careful with the lord, seriously if you have a look at them in the shop they really dont have rocker! ive skiied them and they ski like a regular freeride ski so sizewise i wouldnt place too much emphasis on downsizing because salomon's cashing in on rocker tech!! defo go for the 185 if i was you. hey DaveC! my heart bleeds for you, a seasonaire in fernie!!!
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DaveC, Keep up the instructor pimping, I assume you'll be busy between Xmas & NY but might drop by during a road trip currently in the planning.
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