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women's ski for 'a bit of both'

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Please can someone help? Whenever I go to choose hire skis [too mean to buy] I end up feeling like I am not sure I've got what I wanted. I'm keen to try more off piste/powder, but want a ski that will turn when I tell it when I am on piste. I'm by no means a go for it skier, but the most fun I ever had was when I got a pair of 10-80s for a couple of days a few years back. I am not a speed freak, but enjoy having a go in moguls. I'm average height but am built for comfort as they say. Embarassed

I have seen some threads about the K2 Luv skis, some of which sound like I what I would try, but what are equivalent skis in other brands for when I have to stumble through broken French?

Cheers in advance.
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MarjMJ, I'm a skier of very few skills and you may not be able to pick them up as hire skis anyway, by in VT this year I trialled a pair of Elan Pure Spice skis, I think they may have been the sort of ski that you are looking for as despite my inexperience even I could see that they would turn had I of had the ability and they were certainly great when it got soft - I ended up wanted a sherpa following me round the mountain with a pair for powder and slush. If you want to look at the specs to see if you can get something similar they can be seen here:

http://www.elanskis.com/pcc.asp?xpath=&xpathid=&xpathid2=&xpathid3=&lang=eng

Drill down on Products/Womens skis/Spice/Pure spice
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MarjMJ, This is what I'm going to try, if/when I get the chance.
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Hurtle, that's a nice all-mountain ski.
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Hurtle,
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The Dynastar Exclusive Legend is a woman's all mountain ski aimed at advanced to expert skiers. A real ski for the fairer sex, not just a softer version of the Legend with girly graphics. The Exclusive Legend is stable at speed and efficient in all snow conditions. It is not deflected by crud and remains predictable. Despite the 13 meter turn radius it suits medium to longer radius turns although is quick edge to edge on hardpack. Less powerful, lighter skiers will have no trouble getting the best out of this ski. Take for a ride through the trees, down narrow couloirs or open up on wide powder fields. Wood cored with a metal spatula cap for robustness. Skieur Magazine's tester's choice 2008.


That sounds awfully suspect to me.... a 13m radius ski that suits longer radius turns = ??they skid well?? Because a ski cannot carve a longer radius than sidecut... only shorter...
Stable at speed - ?? with a 13m radius.... I wanna see them convince a DH or SG or even GS racer that they are "stable at speed" .... so I guess what this means is "we are marketing at people that will not notice speed issues"....(or was that the tester's idea of speed is a bit dodge? - hard to know who wrote this)..... Quick edge to edge- with a 75mm waist - Compared to ? a 100mm waist? or a 63mm waist? I notice a definite difference in my Lotta Luvs at 78 than any of my other skis at 63ish...

This is the sort of tripe that really puts me off reading these ski reviews.... Like when you see people who you know for a fact cannot initiate a clean carve turn reviewing skis and talking about how they carve
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MarjMJ, if you're looking for a ski that you'll find fairly easily in hire shops, you could check out the Rossignol B78 Bandits (or perhaps the B83s, but I think the B78s would be fine). I second Hurtle's suggestion as well snowHead

Btw, I've got Burnin Luvs (which I think are wonderful Very Happy ) - they are great on piste & on moguls (it's my fault, not theirs...), & can handle a bit of off-piste & powder, but the latter two are not really their thing...
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little tiger wrote:

Stable at speed - ?? with a 13m radius.


So run them flat.

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... I wanna see them convince a DH or SG or even GS racer that they are "stable at speed" .... so I guess what this means is "we are marketing at people that will not notice speed issues"....(or was that the tester's idea of speed is a bit dodge?


Do you -really- think most people reading that review will want to go over 30mph? Or if they do, that they will think that they're "slow"?

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... Quick edge to edge- with a 75mm waist - Compared to ?


Other 75mm waisted skis. It is.

It is even quick edge2edge compared to some thinner skis with less sidecut and narrower tips.

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This is the sort of tripe that really puts me off reading these ski reviews.... Like when you see people who you know for a fact cannot initiate a clean carve turn reviewing skis and talking about how they carve


Context and audience, lt, context and audience.
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i first saw the thread title as "women for a bit of both" Toofy Grin Toofy Grin

if you liked 1080s then why not try for them, would've thought they're fairly common around the hire shops?? - or you could shop around for a good purchase deal on same

her-indoors has K2 Luvs and Luvs them
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comprex wrote:
Hurtle, that's a nice all-mountain ski.
'swot I thought and, until my present Heads (which are fine, except for giving me shoulder-ache from carrying them) I've always been Dynastar brand-loyal.
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Jo225 wrote:
MarjMJ, if you're looking for a ski that you'll find fairly easily in hire shops, you could check out the Rossignol B78 Bandits (or perhaps the B83s, but I think the B78s would be fine). I second Hurtle's suggestion as well snowHead

Btw, I've got Burnin Luvs (which I think are wonderful Very Happy ) - they are great on piste & on moguls (it's my fault, not theirs...), & can handle a bit of off-piste & powder, but the latter two are not really their thing...


I tried the Burnin Luvs and thought they were awful... all built up as great on-piste and stiff... I just found them kinda dead feeling.... a nothing type of ski.... edges felt sort of useless(might have been the tune I'm used to a race ski with special steel edges and a 0.5/3 tune) I'd not have wanted them on good Oz morning after the afternoon slop before type ice....

I got the Lotta Luvs after trying in Utah.... they are not bad.... pretty forgiving.... but not awe inspiring either.... these days I'll ski my GS skis in the same snow I'd ski the Lotta's.... so the Lotta's are going to go....

I'm considering trying a Gotama or the ladies version of that after reading a few reviews from people I know.... because I'd like a real powder type ski...for the right days... otherwise I am going to work on improving how I ski on the race skis in more conditions...


Having said all that it seems a GS type ski suits my type of skiing style(ask Easiski).... and as I grew up on race skis I like the feel of these things and a race type tune...

I think you really need to get out and try some different stuff and not just buy what everyone else thinks is trendy...
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little tiger,
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we are marketing at people that will not notice speed issues

What's the problem? Laughing Laughing
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little tiger,
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not just buy what everyone else thinks is trendy

The OP specifically mentions renting. And my own post referred to 'trying.' rolling eyes
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Hurtle, I was commenting on the people writing the stuff not you two.... They write so much rubbish you really have to TRY.... their is no indication what a ski is like from those descriptions
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Hurtle wrote:
comprex wrote:
Hurtle, that's a nice all-mountain ski.
'swot I thought and, until my present Heads (which are fine, except for giving me shoulder-ache from carrying them) I've always been Dynastar brand-loyal.



Yep this can be a good thing... some people and some brands are a match - or mismatch.... I have always skied well on Volkl and Stockli skis.... never found a Salomon I got on with yet! Hence I'm pretty partial to trying anything from these makers....
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little tiger, I hated the Burnin Luvs too. I can't understand why they are so well liked. They do have a dead feel to them. My husband thought the same about the Recons. Volkls are king !
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I'm considering trying a Gotama or the ladies version of that after reading a few reviews from people I know


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I think you really need to get out and try some different stuff and not just buy what everyone else thinks is trendy...

Laughing Laughing
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They write so much rubbish you really have to TRY.... their is no indication what a ski is like from those descriptions

Laughing Laughing
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SMALLZOOKEEPER, Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
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JT, Absolute classic.
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Next time I need to buy skis I'm going to be testing the Mission of the day (currently have the Rosas) and the Stöckli Rotor 76. I had a blast on those when I tested them last season, but my powder skiing wasn't up to testing them in deeper stuff at the time. If I'm feeling rich, I'd almost be tempted to buy both, keep one pair in Laax and the other at home for Hoch-Ybrig/Flumsi Embarassed
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erica2004, Yep if I was shopping for an "All Mountain Ski" (Does nothing really well ski in my book) rather than a specialty ski then I'd go for the Volkl Tigershark with the switch (well I'd demo first but that sounds an awesome ski from those I know that skied it)..... I know I love Volkl skis generally.... and as I said I've never found a Salomon I liked at all...

I think it is the style of ski suits the style of skier sort of thing...
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Thanks folks. I do have a very sceptical eye for the blurbs these things come with which is why I rather thought I should ask. I had forgot about the Bandits - I think I had something of that ilk last year and they were good for me. I just don't want to spend 3 days of my holiday dithering about whether I've got the right ski then having to waste time going back to the shop to change them.

I must admit to not having had much fun with Dynastars, but I have had fun many years ago with Salomon's, so perhaps it is all just a case of 'you say potato, I say pomme de terre..' Very Happy

I would admit to having absolutely no clue about all this sidecut stuff - I'm quite happy to wear trousers without having to know how they work as the saying goes...
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