Poster: A snowHead
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hi all
i'm a waxing virgin (ho ho) and i'm thinking about giving it a lash to save a few sheckels (oh how the credit crunch is hitting me).
i've read up a bit about it and frankly it's not rocket science, does anyone here do their own? if so what product do you tend to use. i was thinking of plumping for an 'all temperature' wax, maybe some Bluebird branded stuff. i'm pretty sure when my board arrived it had a 'factory waxed with bluebird wax' sticker on it.
any thoughts?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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ive tried loads of different wax and there hasnt been any noticable difference in any of it
i use an all temp wax nowadays
the texturing i found seems to make a difference using one of them brushes
the best time to wax your board is in the summer when its hot so it goes in the pores on the board easier
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rogg, All-temp wax is fine. I sometimes use a warm or a cold wax if the conditions are extreme, but mostly I stick to all-temp stuff.
Spyderjon's website is very helpful.
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rogg, I use dominator zoom all temp, get it from spyderjon you're right it's dead easy to do yourself.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Yeah, do my own now - wouldn't ever take mine to a shop now unless I'm without my waxing gear.
I use DATA wax, which i've found good for the domes. Couldn't find a cheap non-steam iron so ended up getting a small steam iron from esco for about £7, a scraper (a piece of perspex) and I use a stiff scrubbing brush as my structuring brush. All seems to work well.
Just amke sure you put plenty of newspaper down to catch the wax when you're applying and scraping.
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nigel b wrote: |
ive tried loads of different wax and there hasnt been any noticable difference in any of it
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Yes the temp doesn't seem to make any difference to me either. It still hurts whatever the temp when I do a full brazil.
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Specialman, Travel irons tend not to be steam and have the advantage that they're small and light so easy(ish) to take with you on holiday.
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I bought my iron on ebay. It is a travel iron with a temperature guage to allow me to control the heat. Cost me the massive total of £3.50 including P & P. Not much demand for old travel irons. Modern travel irons all are steam and have the holes which is rubbish.
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What do other people use for waxing?
I've got a gummy stone, iron, scraper and wax. Never needed much more. Does anyone else?
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croskemj wrote: |
What do other people use for waxing?
I've got a gummy stone, iron, scraper and wax. Never needed much more. Does anyone else? |
A big horse hair oval brush.
I use this absorbent paper stuff from work, dont know what it's called. Splash the wax on the board, iron it in, then iron the paper over the wax and it sucks it all up, saves scraping it and making a mess. Quick blast with the horse hair brush then I slap it on the spinning wheel thing and I'm done, 2 minutes max
I use this wax in spring
http://www.toko.ch/en/productDetail/5509307_v_60/HF+Dibloc+yellow.html
And this one when it's cold
http://www.toko.ch/en/productDetail/5509313_v_60/HF+Dibloc+blue.html
or a mix of the both.
I used to put waxing up there in the list of pointless things to do with a board, like keeping sharp edges, I still dont rate sharp edges as being of any use but waxing, I have to admit, does make a difference. Mine gets waxed now every time I ride.
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The difference of good wax is not necessarily that you go faster - that is your choice with a little control - but it is the little things like when you coming to a flat and want to keep going for as long as possible. It is simple physics - less friction will allow you to glide for longer.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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olster, i couldn't find a travel iron for the life of me. Saw one in Boots and it was about the size of a mouse and £30 but that was about all!!
Is there a massive difference between a cheapo iron and a 'proper' waxing iron like those Bakoda ones?
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Try ebay for travel irons as there are tons there - just be careful which one you buy with regards to the temperature guage so you really can control it and essentially not burn the wax (ie when it starts smoking).
Never trieda proper waxing iron, although some professional servicers say they are overpriced and don't necessarily do what they are supposed to.
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You know it makes sense.
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The most common question I’m asked re base tuning concerns what iron to use. Many tuners use a flat base travel iron (without the holes!) without any problems - a mate of mine has a 20yr little Pifco travel iron that is brilliant. However, the majority are not very controllable as their thermostats having very wide ranging tolerances (a tolerance of 50-70C is common) & their thin bases get hot spots. At least it means that the iron keeps going cold & you have to keep waiting for it to reheat or at worst, especially when using hard cold temp waxes, could lead to base burn. The thinner construction of snwoboards, especially over the mounting holes, make them esecially prone to base damage from an over hot iron.
A specifically designed wax iron has a far narrower tolerance thermostat (typically 10-15C at entry level down to just a few degrees for a mega bucks digital job) & a larger base that’s a lot thicker than a conventional iron enabling it to hold a constant & equal temperature. Last season I had about 15 boards & about 3 skis in for repair due to base melt, all of which had been done with a domestic iron.
Simply put a proper wax iron is just way easier & safer to use so it’s up to you to balance the cost/risk/ease equation for yourself.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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But was the melt because it was poorly done and people not moving the iron quickly enough across the base? If you leave you any iron in the same place for too long, you can cause damage.
You are quite right though, you have to be particularly careful around the mounting holes. Also if people forget to either unscrew their bindings either partially or completely, a vaccum is created in the airpocket that makes the holes bulge through the base.
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